Calling Contest

[Cody_Hopps16]

The First Annual Brick Tavern Duck And Goose Calling Contests. Will Be Held Sat. Oct. 11. There Will Be Jr. Duck And Goose. Novice Goose. Meat Duck And A Open Goose. More Details Will Be Coming On CDC. Lets Make This A Good One So We Can Continue This As A Annual Event.

[calling4life]

Lets tell us where it will be.... What state and city for example. :wink:

[Cody_Hopps16]

The Contests Will Be Held In The Little Town Of Bath, Illinois. In The Heart Of The Il. River Valley. Towns Close Would Be Havana To The North And Beardstown To The South.

[Ben Edwards]

This will be a good one boys!!!! i was hopeing you guys would be able to put this one together. any word on pay out on the goose?

They should have more comps at bars :D lol

[adammax1]

I've had quite a few of the best times that I will never remember at that bar. Curious to see what kind of turnout it will be, but I'll definitely be there.....

[Cody_Hopps16]

as Of Right Now It Looks Like 1000. Pay Out For Novice Goose And Meat Duck Will Apercentage Of The Entry Fees.

[calling4life]

Negative for me, to far of a drive, I will be out putting the hurt on birds.

But get Miller out there, he seems to be running the show in these novice goose comps. :wink:

Maybe he can redeem himself and take the meat duck as well. :P :D

Good luck to all who attend, if you guys get the chance to record some routines post them up please.

[Killer Miller]

Well hopefully, I will be unable to compete in novice contests in the near future because of winning to many of them or placing in an open.....but as of right now I will take the money and run. And redeem myself in the meat duck? Come on 4th ain't that bad, but yeah I woulda liked to have placed higher. Josh Dokken and Kyle showed up and they ran the show.

As for the contest, I'd like to but will probably be too busy working, attending school, and trying to shoot some birds. I'd like nothing more than to head over to IL and get my a$$ handed to me by several of the best in the world....really I would. The next contests I attend very well may be Burlington, which is usually in February.

[Ben Edwards]

hey cody,
let me know if the red brick is looking for a band to play that evening :wink:

[Trevor Shannahan]

I don't get the whole novice thing. If you win one, you shouldn't be able to compete in another.

[Killer Miller]

I don't get the whole novice thing. If you win one, you shouldn't be able to compete in another.

I somewhat agree, but this contest I won was a "Hunter Goose" not a novice contest. I'm pretty sure it's more or less the same thing, but the rules stated that "No callers that have placed top 3 in an Open contest are allowed to call" or something along those lines. I am far, far away from placing in open goose contests. Well I placed 4th this weekend, but there were only 8 callers. Most of the Opens around here consist of Hunter, Sean, Wade, Cody, Scott T., Craig Roseneau just to name a few. I called still following the rules and I am glad I did, as I walked away with some money.

[calling4life]

WOOOOOT!!!!

I don't mind having novice winners in a novice contest

But

"In sports, a professional is someone who participates for money"

So if you place and receive money, you're now a pro. :wink: And Pros can't very well be considered novice can they??

[Trevor Shannahan]

Miller, I wasn't having a go on you man. Congrats on the win. I was just voicing my disgust with inconsistencies in novice rules around the country. Most novice contests are if you have won any single man, competition style contest you can't compete. However, at some you can't have placed in an open, or you can have won like 15 novices ,but never won an open and still compete. I think if you win any contest you should be out of novice contention, no questions asked. Sorry for my mini-rant and hijack. Back to your regularly scheduled program.

[WhiteFeather]

Novice should be left for those that haven't won. It would be discouraging for other competitors if someone continued competing in novice contests and winning them all. Isn't the point of a novice contest to get people into contest calling?


As for who is there, it shouldn't matter. As with any sport, if you work on your skills, you can beat anyone.

[groundsboy3]

but what i dont get is if say for example me. Yes i have won more than one. Some might think its stupid. But if im gunna drive however many hours to a contest and i can compete in a novice i more than likely will. but now i dont believe i can. but if you take someone and they win the novice and its a 1 n out and then what if they dont compete in opens? your right back where you started. some might not get it or i didnt word it right but thats all i got

[WhiteFeather]

So you would continue to blow in a novice contest if you could???

[groundsboy3]

goose more then likely not duck yeah. until i am old enough to qualify for worlds. but if rules do apply i dont see whats wrong with it. but did you get my point though?

[Trevor Shannahan]

I will not compete in anymore novice comps even if I'm allowed to. The Grand Slam for example. If I have not won a qualifier by next year, I will be out in KC ,but I will not compete in the novice.

[WhiteFeather]

No... It is like playing baseball in the minor leagues abd never moving up to major ball because you are worried about failure.

[Trevor Shannahan]

No... It is like playing baseball in the minor leagues abd never moving up to major ball because you are worried about failure.Amen brother. Plus if you are traveling to contests, you most likely are going to compete in opens.

[Cody_Hopps16]

If You Have Placed In The Top 5 You Cannot Blow In The Novice. The Meat Duck Is Gonna Pay 300 To Win. If There Is Enough Interest There Will Be A 2 Man Goose After The Open Goose. We Need All The Callers And Spectators we Can Muster Up. Foiles Will Be At The Comp As well as Other Sponsors.

[groundsboy3]

im done with this one because i knew knowone would understand dont know why i posted already had something like this already on another form and didnt get anything for bashed for 2 sentences. so im done. and i compete in opens any time i get the chance too. so i dont go to try and take titles away from people in novice but w/e

[Killer Miller]

I get what you're saying Robbie. Most contests are not a short drive, so when you go to a contest for a day or a weekend you want to walk away with something....whether it be a novice win and some money or gear for your efforts or a top 5 in an open. We all spend money just to get to a contest and then spend more money to compete in each contest, so hell yes everyone wants to win something whether it be a little cash, a new blind bag, or a gift card to Cabela's.

I also understand where Trevor and Mark are coming from....the point of novice contests are to get new callers involved in contest calling, which that of course in turn creates more and more interest for contests. That leads to more and better contests.....the more contests there are, the closer some contests will be and the better the prizes and so on. With all that also comes tougher competition, which IMO is good for everybody.

As far as myself winning a novice goose already, yes I did. And I won another 1 this past weekend (hunter goose, basically a novice). I did not break any rules and I didn't discourage any new callers from blowing in it. There were only 4 callers anyway. The guy that got 3rd had never blew in a contest, so I think he was happy that he beat 1 of the other guys. The contest was close to home so that was nice and the payout was great for a novice contest so I chose to blow in it and I did just that. I did place 4th in the open, but the only big guns there were Big Sean and Heston. Ben Edwards took 3rd and he is a good caller too. But had I not blown in the Hunter Goose, I would be $500 poorer and like I said, no rules were broken. I am far from being good enough to place in a typical open around here, so as long as I am okay to blow in novice contests I will probably keep blowing in them.

[WhiteFeather]

Miller,

There is a difference between you and Iverson. A second place at the Missouri state open goose, ahead of Hunter Grounds, Casey Self, and Cody Hopps. A third place at Presleys, ahead of Wade Walling. Hunter and Wade are "ranked" 2nd and 3rd. In my opinion, this puts him in the OPEN category and NOT NOVICE.


Robbie,

See stats above...

If anyone is wondering, here is where I got the info:

http://callingducks.com/caller_details.aspx?ID=2164

[calling4life]

I would be more then happy to compete against Robbie in a novice comp.

But you're making a lot of grey area there whitefeather, it's not hard to see what you're saying. But now you're asking them to differentiate between who you've beaten and how well you've done in opens that are better then other opens.... Who is suppose to decide what makes what better?

You have to cut a clear line, and since it's not our decision, who knows if that will happen. It's to different from one contest to another.

Fact is Miller got 4th and I believe it was 6th in the past couple opens, winning 2 novice events. So he is what some would call a shoe in to win in a novice event.

That's why you can't make it a relative issue, cut and clear, white and black is how she must be done.

[Killer Miller]

Holy $hit Robbie you're ranked 9th! That awesome man. Not too long ago, you weren't ranked....you've been tearing it up lately. But yeah I'd say that takes him out of the novice category lol.

[Trevor Shannahan]

Hell, I'm not ranked. Does that make me still a novice??? Hell no! People were complaining that I shouldn't have called in the novice that I just won. They were like its not even fair. IMO you are only a novice if you haven't won a contest before. Once you win a novice you are done. End of story.

[groundsboy3]

Im proud of that number but guys its just a number. i had 3 good weekends. if your around me i dont talk about at all. people say you beat hunter grounds i say yeah but it dont feel right because of the contest?

[Killer Miller]

Fact is Miller got 4th and I believe it was 6th in the past couple opens, winning 2 novice events. So he is what some would call a shoe in to win in a novice event.

Are you nuts dude? I won in a tie-breaker at Game Fair, meaning I barely won. Also, there were 2 or 3 other callers that were probably outscoring me going into the 2nd round....but they stuck in the 2nd round and did not make the final cut. Also, there were only 4 callers in the contest I won this past weekend and I only won by a total of 3 points. My routines are not consistent enough to be good and I am not near as aggressive as I need to be. I am working on my calling more and more, but it really sucks living in an apartment. My only practicing is done in the car driving.

[GOOSEHANSON]

Shannahan=only calling with the big boys

Robbie= same as Trevor( shouldn't be even a question, you beat Hunter)

Tyler= more grey, he should blow a couple more novices, but if he wants to up his game, move up and just do the opens.

I wish I had the time some of the younger guys do to practice my calling...I like Tyler only practice in the truck on the way to work now...I am sure Trevor's practicing will slow down now that he is in college...hope not but probably will....when I was serious about calling I used to place pretty decent out here...but now I just don't have the time with kids and work and family...besides it gives me a headache after awhile ....Robbie and Trevor...keep up the good work, you guys are really talented...but stay humble...nothing is funnier then a kid with a big head that can blow a goose call acting like they are it around guides that have been at it longer then they can walk....you guys should put a two man together...joe

[Trevor Shannahan]

Shannahan=only calling with the big boys

Robbie= same as Trevor( shouldn't be even a question, you beat Hunter)

Tyler= more grey, he should blow a couple more novices, but if he wants to up his game, move up and just do the opens.

I wish I had the time some of the younger guys do to practice my calling...I like Tyler only practice in the truck on the way to work now...I am sure Trevor's practicing will slow down now that he is in college...hope not but probably will....when I was serious about calling I used to place pretty decent out here...but now I just don't have the time with kids and work and family...besides it gives me a headache after awhile ....Robbie and Trevor...keep up the good work, you guys are really talented...but stay humble...nothing is funnier then a kid with a big head that can blow a goose call acting like they are it around guides that have been at it longer then they can walk....you guys should put a two man together...joe
Yea, I haven't touched my calls since I've been down here. Don't have the place or time to do it. Luckily goose calling is like riding a bike, I never really practiced that much anymore anyways. Duck calling is going to suffer with lack of practice though. I usually practice a couple days before a contest, now it will be a couple hours before it out in the Easton High parking lot. :D As far as a 2-man, HA you are a funny man. Plus me and Steppe got the nasty team routine down already.

[groundsboy3]

that is pretty funny about the 2 man. duck i wouldnt care

[GOOSEHANSON]

I thought you guys would think that was funny...the duck calling deal doesn't appeal to me...especially mainstreet...I know how it motivates some guys...because there is no room for error but there is also no room for personalization either...plus those ringing hail calls drive me nuts after a round or two...both you guys just keep at it...joe

[Trevor Shannahan]

See, the truly great callers do put personality into a duck routine though.

[GOOSEHANSON]

I know two top finishers in the world...judged them in a comp a couple months back and will agree with what your saying...but you just don't have the room to improvise in a comp routine like you do a goose routine....one thing that does get me is warm ups...the theory is as you know is to all your good stuff in the warm up to get the judges attention show your skills...but it also is a dead give away for who is up on the stage...no answer for the problem but if you judge enough comps you know who is who on stage...then it just comes down to blowing a clean routine...just my thoughts on the comp deal...joe

[Trevor Shannahan]

Yea, like my warm-up is the same every time. 7 fast quacks, my 3 hen series. Long hail come down 3, long hail come down 3, long hail. I like to put my personality into my feed and flow of my routine. I have a fast paced routine with a pretty complex feed, it is very technical ,but it is definitely my own.

[calling4life]

Fact is Miller got 4th and I believe it was 6th in the past couple opens, winning 2 novice events. So he is what some would call a shoe in to win in a novice event.

Are you nuts dude? I won in a tie-breaker at Game Fair, meaning I barely won. Also, there were 2 or 3 other callers that were probably outscoring me going into the 2nd round....but they stuck in the 2nd round and did not make the final cut. Also, there were only 4 callers in the contest I won this past weekend and I only won by a total of 3 points. My routines are not consistent enough to be good and I am not near as aggressive as I need to be. I am working on my calling more and more, but it really sucks living in an apartment. My only practicing is done in the car driving.

You're being to humble. :wink:

You're a good caller on both a duck and goose call, and a win is a win, whether it's by 1 point or 20.

Win by an inch it's as good as a mile. :D
You have to give yourself more credit.

[Cody_Hopps16]

Miller Sucks Just Kidding. Contest Times, Payouts Now On CDC. Lets Make This One A Good Guys And Girls!

[Trevor Shannahan]

Sounds like a good event. Wish I could make it

[KKarloff]

Miller Sucks Just Kidding. Contest Times, Payouts Now On CDC. Lets Make This One A Good Guys And Girls!

:lol: :lol: Nice I agree with joe, stage time always helps and Miller always participates in both open and novice. It will def. help in the long run and sooner than later he will be all opens. Keep tearin it up buddy. As far as Robbie I dont understand the need to participate in a novice when you are placing in opens with the big boys. To me there would be a lot more satisfaction in focusing on getting better in the opens than dominating the novice division. Hopps Im hoping to make it kinda in the middle of harvest for me but Ill try my hardest it sounds like a blast..

[Cody_Hopps16]

Reminder. Who Is gonna Make It?

[Ben Edwards]

Me and Steve Albrecht will be there.

[Cody_Hopps16]

Ben is Steve blowing In The Open? Dad has 3 Judges on the Fence 2 For sure. wont Know bout the Other 3 till tonight or tomorrow.

[Ben Edwards]

Yes, as far as i know. shoot me a pm if you want me to get ahold of him for you or u want his cell #

[groundsboy3]

ill be there cody

[foilee]

The Migrators and myself will be there on Saturday. Somebody has to keep scoring under control. :)

[Cody_Hopps16]

Reminder!

[Foiles SMH1]

How everybody do?

[sethdoman]

gooseslayer1 won the novice goose, and IMO Robbie got screwd out of the Junior Goose. Didn't stick around for the Open

[Cody_Hopps16]

Codys Dad. Wade walling won the meat duck. Shawn Beck won the novice goose. Cody, Robbie, Wade And Ben Edwards In That Order in The Open i Will say This I Helped Busted My Butt To get Good judges For This Contest. So Until You set One Up To Try To Make It A Good experience for all Those Calling might Just Want To Keep Those opinions To Yourself Or The Contest trail Might Continue To decline. For Those That Competed the Village Of Bath, sponsors And Rod Atterberry The Owner Of The Brick. Say Thank You!

[groundsboy3]

Thanks for putting on the contest you guys and i would like to hear mine and codys 2 man if i could

[KKarloff]

Congrats to Cody and all the top finishers I wish I could have made it up sounded like a great time.

[duckahlr]

Congrats boys!!!! I flew back last weekend and went through too. Sorry I missed!!

[groundsboy3]

more people should efinatley come next year

[Foiles SMH1]

I am going to try my best to make it next year sounds like a awesome time! Great job again to all the callers