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mlgorecki
01-08-2006, 03:17 AM
This is my 1st year waterfowl hunting and I am hooked. As a result of this new obsession there is alot of domestic drama on the home-front but that is another issue. I just purchased my 1st Foiles call, the Meatgrinder. I also just watched "Callin' Geese, The Strait Meat Way, 2.0" DVD. Awesome video; I feel I can now really make my Meatgrinder "sing".

Do you guys think the Meatgrinder sounds the same as the SMH? The video says the only difference between the two is that the SMH is made of acrylic (lifetime warranty) and the Meatgrinder is polycarbonete ( a fancy name for plastic; 1 year warranry).

01-08-2006, 10:36 AM
FYI acrylic is plastic. The acrylic calls are just turned from a solid block instead of injection molded like the meat grinder.

the_duckinator
01-08-2006, 10:38 AM
That was me posting, it didn't log me in for some reason

mlgorecki
01-08-2006, 11:18 AM
10-4. Do you think they both sound the same?

SMOKE
01-08-2006, 11:24 AM
Your acrylics will have a more sharper sound to them i think. either way they both sound damn good. i just recently got a grinder myself and have been practicin with it and love it. Never had a short reed before this call and its actualyl prety easy to blow.

azhunter
01-08-2006, 12:25 PM
I recently got into goose hunting this year. I am learning how to call. I was using a Faulk's Honker Call. I liked it because it was easy to blow, but I felt that I couldn't do clucks and other calls. I recently purchased Callin' Geese 2.0 to learn how to call correctly. After watching the video I wanted a Foiles call. I purchased the MeatGrinder it was the only one in the store. I was wondering if that you use the same technique that Jeff teaches for the Straight Meat Honker in the video.

Thanks

Spencer

SMOKE
01-08-2006, 12:33 PM
I have the strait meat sounds cd and use it to practice with my meat grinder. I can already tell that im gettin better each time i practice and ive onyl had it maybe a week or 2. you still present air into the call the same way as u would the strait meat honker. i picked up the legend and meat grinder because i want to get good on these before i move up to the smm and smh. which if i keep my workin like i am it will be sooner then later.

SkipsClassToHunt
01-08-2006, 01:40 PM
I also just got a Meatgrinder and have been using the Strait Meat sounds CD, and Calling Geese 2.0. I use the same things that Jeff says to use on the SMH. So good luck and enjoy the call.

Mike

mlgorecki
01-08-2006, 07:13 PM
Spencer,

This is my 1st year waterfowling too. I also started to use the same sound techniques Jeff recommends in the Callin' Geese DVD. Take the greeting call for instance; a lot of guys out there say you should say "Too-wit" or "Oh-wit". I suppose that works, but for me it isn't as consistant as Jeff's "Ah-eh" technique. That video, coupled with the Meatgrinder call, has changed my world. Too bad I made this discovery after the season has ended up here in Northern Illinois. Next year Scout and I will "Rock-em".

IowaMigr8tor
01-08-2006, 07:32 PM
All Foiles short reed goose calls are used the same way. Once you learn the techniques to one of them you should be able to transfer to the rest of the shortreeds. I feel the SMH is easier to blow and sounds better than the Meatgrinder. I also think that if you are in the market for a call that is going to last seasons on your lanyard you need to get an acrylic call, compare the warranty(1 yr. vs Lifetime). The acrylic of a SMH gives it both a mellow tone with the capablilty of high pitched cracks. In my experience Polycarb just isn't as flexable as Acrylic when it comes to calling, not to mention I often hear an echo in the polycarbs that I have used before.

mlgorecki
01-08-2006, 07:54 PM
That makes sense. I was hoping I'd be able to get by without springing for the big ticket SMH. Oh well. The spending never ends.

Max4Gooser
01-08-2006, 09:04 PM
I blow the SMH and Meat Cutter, and love them, I would recommend to you being new too goose huntin, buying a Meat Grinder. It is still a darn good call, especially for a poly carb. Learn on the MG, make sure this is a sport you are going to stick with, then buy yourself a SMH, and enjoy.

Also as far as differences go the MG has a different gut system in it also, it has Grey guts, instead of the green guts foundin the acryllic calls.

You won't go wrong with any of Jeff's calls, thet are all top notch.

gmeares
01-08-2006, 09:44 PM
I've have the meatgrinder and the SMH. But the SMH seems a little crisper on the sounds and for me it's faster on the sounds. But they are both great calls you can't go wrong with either one.

the_duckinator
01-09-2006, 05:09 PM
mlgorecki, if you're looking for an acrylic call but don't want to blow $150 look around the classifieds section in different hunting forums such as flock knockers. They have many like new calls for less. I just bought a like new High Plains Honker for $90 off of nodakoutdoors.com. I love it! My friend has a meatgrinder and it's definately a step up from that. IMO It blows easier, is louder, and sounds better. Just my $.02

mlgorecki
01-09-2006, 06:17 PM
That's a good $.02. I've been practicing a lot with my Meatgrinder and feel it's starting to sound pretty good, especially since watching the "Calling Geese" video. I think I'll stick with it and spend the money on what I really need; more goose blocks and a Pattern Master choke tube.

Max4Gooser
01-09-2006, 06:39 PM
mlgorecki,
That sounds like a good decision also. The meat grinder is a great call especially for the price. Stick with it for a few years, and get the other stuff you need, then you can go back and start upgrading.

greenhead
01-09-2006, 08:25 PM
i have got a SMH but it is backordered right now. my buddy has one and i blew it and it is so easy to use for me anyway

Max4Gooser
01-09-2006, 08:31 PM
which color combo did you order? You will love it when it comes in.