Jumping Snows

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For those of you who don't beleive in jump shooting please stay out. I am not trying to start anything just want to know what the best way is. We have thousands of snows around but cant figure out how to sneak up on them. We got 15 today on one good jump and that was it. The geese are getting shy of the cow and we can't think of anything else. Please give me some input. Thanks.

[Turninbirds]

So... you have a field holding geese; why not set up for them before they get there and kill them over decoys.

Jumping is for noobs.

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You are just the person I didn't want answering this message. We tried setting up on them. They have about 15 fields to choose from and pick a different one every day. And also please keep your opinions to yourself. Could care less what you think about jumping geese.

[SBE II]

http://www.theshadowshield.com/video/goose_stalk.htm

[Mallardman9]

I seen a thing a while back..it was basically holding a large mirror type thing at an angle so it reflected what was in front of you. It actually worked pretty slick in the video but Im not sure how a large mirror would hold up for yah

[SBE II]

This is mallard

http://www.theshadowshield.com/video/goose_stalk.htm

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Ya my buddy just called me and we went to Wal-Mart and bought 3 foot wide by 4 feet tall miriors and we are going to glue 1/4" Plywood on the back of them and glue handles on them and try it out tomarow.

[feetdown20]

if you have ditch lines on the sides of the field, we have sent 3 or 4 guys down one side and 3 or 4 down the other side, and once the birds got up it was a back and forth deal for a couple passes, ended up with 33 which wasn't bad to end the day, and we really were just trying to keep them off the food! Hope that makes sense

[calling4life]

You could do the ole army crawl on your belly.

I did this once to jump snows and I wont be doing it again, mud, ice, water, snow, I came out of that jump looking like I just got in a bar fight. We crawled about 150-200 yards.

I was bleeding all over. :roll:

The jumpers that do this belly crawl to kill birds are crazy, I don't know how you could stand to do this all day, it is 10 times the work of setting out decoys.

We were using 1500 sillosocks on our hunts over decoys and weren't doing worth a crap, and we were on the X.

[kingkilla]

miller and i tried working some snows last night in the wet fields when it was raining. we got to like 150 yards and then they flew. it sucked.

[spaightlabs]

ditch pigging is for low life, scum sucking weasels and you ain't one of those or you wouldn't be on the Foiles site. Piggin' isn't hunting.

That said , if ya just gotta try it cuz you think it's cool to watch cripples flop around and run all over hell's half acre you really need to select terrain to work to your advantage. Unfortunataly for you by the time the birds get to you they've been pigged a billion times and they barely get a chance to rest without somone jumping out of a truck at 'em.

1) please get permission and don't just trespass - that will ruin hunting opportuniteis for other snow hunters, canada hunters, duck hunters etc.

2) try to find a weed or tree line that will work to yoru advantage. If the birds are leap frogging through the fields you can get out in front of them and let 'em work up to you.

3) Be careful with your mirrors - that isn't tempered glass and a broken mirror will f you up like you read about, cut an artery and you're gone. The commerically avaialble products are polished metal or plastics, not glass.

Good luck, and try to find someone how to decoy 'em, it's a way better show.

[Greg Ruark Jr.]

ditch pigging is for low life, scum sucking weasels and you ain't one of those or you wouldn't be on the Foiles site. Piggin' isn't hunting.

That said , if ya just gotta try it cuz you think it's cool to watch cripples flop around and run all over hell's half acre you really need to select terrain to work to your advantage. Unfortunataly for you by the time the birds get to you they've been pigged a billion times and they barely get a chance to rest without somone jumping out of a truck at 'em.

1) please get permission and don't just trespass - that will ruin hunting opportuniteis for other snow hunters, canada hunters, duck hunters etc.

2) try to find a weed or tree line that will work to yoru advantage. If the birds are leap frogging through the fields you can get out in front of them and let 'em work up to you.

3) Be careful with your mirrors - that isn't tempered glass and a broken mirror will f you up like you read about, cut an artery and you're gone. The commerically avaialble products are polished metal or plastics, not glass.

Good luck, and try to find someone how to decoy 'em, it's a way better show.

[farmerkuk]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d193/farmerkuk/IMG_0605.jpg

[spaightlabs]

You're better'n that Jeremy.

I know doin' snows right can be frustrating and the learning curve takes a long time to climb, but it can be done and it doesn't have to cost a fortune.

It does take time and hard work, and that's something people either choose to dedicate themselves to or not. It's a symptom of our instant gratification culture taht guys want it fast and they want it easy.

Our group isn't great right now, but we're getting better every time out. We will get this game figured out, it's just a matter of time, hard work and taking each lesson to heart.

[calling4life]

You're better'n that Jeremy.

I know doin' snows right can be frustrating and the learning curve takes a long time to climb, but it can be done and it doesn't have to cost a fortune.

It does take time and hard work, and that's something people either choose to dedicate themselves to or not. It's a symptom of our instant gratification culture taht guys want it fast and they want it easy.

Our group isn't great right now, but we're getting better every time out. We will get this game figured out, it's just a matter of time, hard work and taking each lesson to heart.

You seem like a decent guy, seem to have a good head on your shoulders, but you're wrong.
You don't get to choose right and wrong, your way isn't right, it is just another way.
Gotta stop being degrading to those who choose to live their lives differently from you, it isn't right.

Now I agree with you for the most part, I am a decoyer, I will be out this fall trying to decoy snows with around 4 doz. T&T shells and a hand call, many consider that crazy, but I'd take 1 bird this way over 400 jumping.

[h20fowler]

I've heard of cow decoys, but I always figured they meant as in cattle. Not Cow moose. :lol:



http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d193/farmerkuk/IMG_0605.jpg

[farmerkuk]

You're better'n that Jeremy.

I know doin' snows right can be frustrating and the learning curve takes a long time to climb, but it can be done and it doesn't have to cost a fortune.

It does take time and hard work, and that's something people either choose to dedicate themselves to or not. It's a symptom of our instant gratification culture taht guys want it fast and they want it easy.

Our group isn't great right now, but we're getting better every time out. We will get this game figured out, it's just a matter of time, hard work and taking each lesson to heart.

Spaight,

Gonna hava to disagree with ya on this one. Is the goal of the conservation season to kill #'s of snow geese? Why not use all methods to get it done?

My group is pushing 1,500 geese since the start of the season. We should pass the 2,000 mark till its over. I had to head west and get busy with my work. Time to start farming and have cows that are calving.

I have no interest in decoying snows. We could care less about the cost of deeks. Many in our group do not have the daylight time to set in a field all day waiting to kill, maybe on a good day 100. This is the time of year when many of my group are calving,getting machinery ready for spring planting and building fence.

All the land we hunt someone in our group either owns,rents or has permission from the neighbor. The blessing of being farmers who love to kill! The greenie decoyers would be in snow goose dream land, with some of the X's we have access to!

This is a private roost within 1 mile of my buddy's land. Many of the geese that we "moose" in the P.M. come from this roost. Nothing beats pass shooting out of the yard.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d193/farmerkuk/IMG_0572.jpg

It is also a huge peeve of mine when the weekend warriors go driving around jumping without permission. I have been seeing this happen more and more! Nothing more pisses me off then trespassers.

This is a field that we were within 100 yrds of busting them up. Then some of the packing plant workers came in from the other direction and ruined the whole gig They got chased down and got an ass chewing. Who knows if they understood us? We should have just called immigration and had them taken care of! http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d193/farmerkuk/IMG_0580.jpg

Nothing beats scouting at night and busting a roost and gathering up 250 geese in a few hrs. I love the grind of busting ice and pulling the goose hurst threw ice and mud to gather them up. On top of the rush of seeing a 10,000 geese within 20 yrds in complete darkness waiting to head rake! Sounds like jets overhead when they take off. You must kill the cripples fast, so that there is less runners. A few good dogs make it lots easier! It gives dogs a great chance of searching for cripples that make it away from the kill area. We try to recover all the geese.

I would never bust a Canada goose roost or a duck roost. Snow geese on the other hand game on! REMEMBER IT IS NO LIMITS. We have busted a roost 2 days straight, gave it a day of rest. We then busted it up for two more days. One the last day there were more geese then the first day we busted it! It does not push the snows out, they keep pouring in with the migration. I'm sure with lower numbers of geese it would push them out, but who care's there is many more roosts for them!!!!

We have been learning the curve for sneaking and have been getting more successful at killing #'s of gesse. It keeps getting better every year. :D :twisted:

[farmerkuk]

I've heard of cow decoys, but I always figured they meant as in cattle. Not Cow moose. :lol:



yea we actually call it moosin!!


It does work well we can get three guys behind it.

[h20fowler]

I assure you, the moose comment was made in good humor.