Arrow rest ??

[bandedbigsixpoints]

I was just trollin for ideas on a new drop away rest. I used one last year and it failed, long story short, when your rest doesn't get outta the way and you miss a 196 inch mulie at thirty yards it's time to send it packin. I was going to try the whisker biscuit but a bunch of people have talked me out of it.

I would love it if someone has had some COMPARABLE experiences with the trophy taker, hostage and QAD.

Even if ya have tried different ones over the last while and have had good/bad experiences I'd like to hear it.

Thanks. P.s. My huntin buddy ended up harvesting that buck anyways. I"ll post pics.

[watson3203]

I have used the Quad Ultra rest for the last couple of years and love it! Had a buddy of mine switch to it also and fixed all of his problems! Right after he shot a P&Y in the rack!

[speckman]

Love my ripcord. Been using it for a couple of years now great containment. Only thing is serve the string on dont trust the little football style string attachment.

[bandedbigsixpoints]

I have heard both good and bad about the QAD. I have a cousin that shoots a bowtech and he went through three of the PROS before he threw in the towell. It just wasn't dropping at all. He would shoot and the rest would still be in the upright. Pretty much my whole hunting camp has switched to them though so who knows.

[watson3203]

Not had that problem at all with it on my hoyt.

[jlog2483]

IMO if your just using it for hunting go with the whisker biscuit. Its pretty fail safe in the field. For some things simple is better. Just my opinion.

[BirdBuster17]

i have a whisper flite from alpine archery and love it. personally i think the whisker biscuit is garbage when you compare them to drop away rest. drop away rest may not have the best comtainment but it makes up for it forgiveness and speed

[MNGrinder]

I wouldn't use a whisker biscuit if i got paid to. I have a rest from cavalier archery that i like but i'm considering switching to the new rest from G5. It's a roller style rest kinda like a carp rest. I haven't done much research on it but that's what i'm leaning toward.

[randy fox]

i have been using a rip cord for 3 years, and have had 0 problems,in fact i love it................................................ .................................R

[Josh]

There is nothing wrong with a whisker biscuit...Good rest, if you aren't comp shooting, and are worried about your arrow falling off get a biscuit. Look for the old inventory ones (prior to this season) this year they received a price jump along with the metal being replaced to plastic.

[corybdesign]

There is nothing wrong with a whisker biscuit...Good rest, if you aren't comp shooting, and are worried about your arrow falling off get a biscuit. Look for the old inventory ones (prior to this season) this year they received a price jump along with the metal being replaced to plastic.

x2 - in hunting and shooting it seems the more moving parts there are the more chance of malfunction there is.

[hoyt]

I am the archery manager of a small store in wisconsin and the #1 fall away we sell is the QAD Ultra HD. It is more money than the rest but the guys I get to buy it love it, only one guy i know had a problem with it not dropping but it was 20 degrees and freezing rain, and a hard noth wind i thinkit was well below zero with windchill. Anything can screw up in those conditions. The problem with a lot of the fallaway arrow rest is not that they dont drop it is that some of them will rebound up after they drop and hit the tail of the arrow. We have also had good luck with the ne G5 rest and the Mathews downforce, not my favorite but a lot of them are going out the door and they shoot good and tune easy. I just dont like how much cord that it needs to work. Just one more thing to get in the way in my opinion.

[ladb57]

If you don't mind me asking, what are your concerns with the whisker biscuit? I have used one for the last couple of seasons and love mine. I've never had a problem with it. If you are just hunting and not comp shooting, it should work just fine.

[MNGrinder]

If you don't mind me asking, what are your concerns with the whisker biscuit? I have used one for the last couple of seasons and love mine. I've never had a problem with it. If you are just hunting and not comp shooting, it should work just fine.
I do shoot in a league but that is not the reason that i don't use the whisker biscuit. I'm a small guy only 5-7 with a draw of 27". I want to be able to squeak as much arrow speed out of that bow as possible. Granted it's not much loss but it does add up. Also some guys use the rubber tube for their peep sight, not me. Just that rubber peep tube alone can rob 2-3 feet per second. Like i said its not alot but i'm on the short end of the spectrum anyway and i need all the speed i can get.

[hoyt]

Nothing wrong with the whisker biskit, makes up half of our total arrow rest sales, other that the drop away. And they still make the aluminum version.

[corybdesign]

there's comes a certain point where faster arrow speed usually only means faster misses :p

[beans]

the wisker biscuit works good out to about 40 yards. after that a drop away will give you more consistant patterns but within 40 or 50 you can hardly tell the difference from a drop away and the biscuit

[Josh]

Nothing wrong with the whisker biskit, makes up half of our total arrow rest sales, other that the drop away. And they still make the aluminum version.

Yes they do, but I was trying to save the guy some money, as the previous years models have up/down adjustments and have 0 plastic. Where as you have to take a big price hike compared to the old one to get up/down adjustments / no plastic.

The biscuit is 1 fps slower, 2 max.

[h20fowler]

The biscuit is 1 fps slower, 2 max.

Based on what draw weight?

[MNGrinder]

Based on what draw weight?
You can't base it only on draw weight it has to be based on both weight and length. My Ross Cardiac's IBO speed is 320 fps. IBO is based on 70 lb 30 inch draw with a specific arrow weight that i can't recall right now. So anything less than 70 lbs or 30 inches of draw is going to decrease your arrow speed. Also if you shoot a heavier or lighter arrow that will affect your speed as well.

[h20fowler]

Yes, I aware of all of that. But that wasn't all brought up yet.

Right now, regardless of draw weight, draw length, arrow weight, and even out to arrow type, fletch type, etc and so forth. It was stated that the difference between the speeds for the two rests is "1 fps, 2 max". Seems like a pretty bold statement for a very broad range of variables.

Would you agree?

[MNGrinder]

Too many variables i agree it was pretty bold.

[kswaterfowler]

My ripcord has been good to me. Trophy Taker makes a nice rest also.

[hoyt]

The diffrence with my mathews monster between th wb and my fallaway is 4 fps

[Gary]

x2 - in hunting and shooting it seems the more moving parts there are the more chance of malfunction there is.agree 100% i used a tm hunter 2 prong for years , killed lots of dear , shot lots of 3-d shoots , never had an issue !!!!!

[bandedbigsixpoints]

Thanks for all the feedback gents. I'm headin in to get a new rest and the shop owner is way cool and he's gonna just set my bow up with a few different rests and we'll see which one I like.

I shoot 30" draw at 70 lbs so I'm not way too worried about the speed loss with a biscuit. My concerns consist of the whiskers freezing, and ripping the vanes off, it gets cold and rainy during the late archery hunt here. Also, I don't think I do it, but I know of guys that grab their handle after they release and that little cant in the bow that they produce by doing that changes the angle that the back of the arrow goes through the biscuit, in turn making it hard to tune.

Who knows, I guess the process begins and I'll let y'all know which one is the best:rolleyes: (or at least which one I picked:))

[Brad From ND]

I agree with the guys that say a WB is great for hunting, but....I also know that mule deer hunting may require a long shot. I would go with a drop away for sure. I'm running a Schafer TM style on my bow, but I have thought about switching to his drop away setup. I can't give any feedback on the others but I've shot with John Schafer and really believe in his products. Just my .02

[beans]

the ibo speed is based on a 29 inch draw length with a 350 grain arrow with just a nock and field tip no fletchings. every inch shorter than a 29 inch draw length you loose 10fps. if you have a 27" draw then you loose 20fps off the ibo