Most Sensational Confrontation

[jrode237]

All right guys, just to make sure I'm not the only one that's been a jerk out there, let's hear your most confrontational interaction with another waterfowler.
My own went something like this. Second week of early goose here in Wisconsin. Down on the lake hunting the residents. Set out a spread of 18 decoys and a guy pulls up 30 yards off our spread and sits. Not a huge deal (he has every right to that water just like me but certainly un-ethical). First flock of a dozen gets up in the distance and starts coming rite at us. Late-comer blows on goose call (horribly by the way) and geese do a 180. All-right, no big deal he learned his lesson (won't happen again). Next two flocks that get up he does exactly the same thing and the geese do the exact same thing as the first flock. Obviously these resident geese wanted nothing to do with being called at, at least on that particular day. My actions went something like this, "Put that Effin goose call away". His response, "kiss my a#%". Needless to say at this point I was fuming. Must have been God looking down on me that day because thankfully I had forgotten my gun in the truck. Not saying I would have done something foolish but it certainly prevented it from even being a possibility.
Trying to calmly explain to the man that these geese didn't want to be called at went like this, "How many flocks have to flare completely away before you realize these geese want nothing to do with being called at?" He failed to respond and a short while later motored away.
Was I in the wrong? I like to think not and am not looking for a bashing from anybody else but have these things happened to the rest of you? Anything more sensational, lets hear it.

[gadwall9282]

That's the bad thing about public land and lakes. On my home lake our best blind has been in the same spot for at least 50 years I'm the 3rd generation to hunt it. When we get a big front and lots of migrators come through its what I like to call a "SUCK HOLE". Last year tuesday before thanksgiving big front hits and we smoke them, we noticed 2 guys in a boat hunting across the way from us, maybe 400 to 500 yards away. They never even have to shoulder their guns the entire time we are there. Next morning get in the blind and get settled 10 minutes before shooting hours the same guys pull up 60 yards strait in front of the blind and set up in the middle of our birds flight path. First bunch of ducks come over and they start calling...poorly. The ducks bend around and start to break into our spread and they stand up and shoot them peepering our blind in the process. My brother and another guy are in the boat on the way over to see them before I could say anything. Next thing I know they are on their way to the boat ramp and I'm in the blind by myself. Ended up shooting my limit while they were gone. Them boys pissed me off but its public land, and really there is nothing you can do.

[dirtycletus81]

I hunt public land a lot and it's not uncommon to get to a spot and find people there. Normally I just keep on driving. One morning while I was out with a group of guys we had just gotten everything set up when we heard a car door shut a little ways down from us. The leader of our little group went down and told the two guys that just pulled up that they were welcome to come down and sit with us. There is no point in both groups screwing each other out of birds when we could team up and limit out. The two hunters came down and sat with us and we had a great hunt. The two strangers were really cool to hunt with, we had a great time. But you never know who you might meet out in the field.

[corybdesign]

last year had guys come by us in the dark after we were set up and SAY they were going to go down the shoreline bout 100 yds. I said it didn't matter to me as long as everyone kept down and let the birds work....after shooting time came come to find out the set up 35 yds downwind of us behind some willows so i chewed their asses. They tried to make every excuse in the book but i kinda summed it up with "Hey, I've killed plenty of birds, but you didn't go where you said you were and put me in a bad situation. If we have a low bird come in we're shooting right at you and we never know it. Could have hurt or killed you, dog or both and I have to live with it."

we still killed 10 that morning..done by 10:30ish ;)

[legband]

Its not only public land that happens on either,ive had it happen on private. Had a hot wheat field last year during early goose. The guy wasnt picky who he let hunt which was fine so farmers are nice like that. I normally move on if to many guys have permission or will try it during the week when the weekend warriors arent around. I went to that field last year got my stuff out and here come 2 guys. I asked them if they wanted to combine dekes and hunt together,they said yeah. So we did and had our 3 man limit of 15 honkers by 9ish. Had some guys set up on a public slough bout 10 minutes before shooting time about 70 yards away. I hollered at them" when the ducks start flyin u better duck a*shole cuz im still shootin" He said screw you buddy,i said come over here and say that. That was the end of it they packed up and left. Every year i have at least one episode.

[Ryan Skinner]

I was hunting a private field one morning, just got all the dekes set up in time for shooting hours. It was like 5 min.s before shooting hours and we was in our blinds because the ducks were starting to fly. I hear a vehicle and look up and theres a truck driving across the field right towards us. The truck continued across the field driving right through our decoys and almost running over one of us in our blind. The guy stopped, and asked if we had permission there, and of course we did, and drove about 30 yds. outside our decoys and put out his 6 shells. He was shooting at every bird 100 yds away, and not touching a feather, by now im furious. So we made it a point that we would wait for every flock to be above him before we shoot, so our shot was raining down on him, not the best thing to do, but we was p****d. I ended up talking to a conservation officer about it and he said when someone hunts that close to you and messes up your hunting like that, its considered hunter harassment, and that is illegal and charges could be pressed.

[firefighter520]

2 years ago my brother and I sat up on a beaver pond we found off the river the night before that was loaded with ducks. On our way into the pond we more than made our presence known. Raising all kinds of hell to make sure know one was in the area, with no response from anyone. About 10min. after shooting hours a group of mallards starts working the hole and out of the blue these guys start shooting and shot rains down on us. After nothing falls I yelled "what the hell?" and they quickly responded with another 6 rounds in our direction! We decided to leave and head back to the boat ramp and call the cops. A game warden and 3 deputies show up a bit later and wait with us at the ramp for these guys. They finally show up drunk as hell and get busted for; DWI, no tags on their boat, no duck stamps, over their limit, and possession of drug paraphernalia. It was great, and the best part of it all we went back and shot our limits.

[SGTSLTR]

We had "A" guy. Set up 50yds around the corner from us on an Island. The guy knew full well we (7) were there. He didn't care. Long story short, One of us went over there, one of us came back and the other started his boat and left. No fisticuffs, just a lot of verbal jujitsu.

The guy came back 15 mins later. Apologized and asked if he could hunt with us. None of us cared much, since it was now about 10 mins to shooting time.

[honkhunter]

The last time my dad was able to go duck hunting with me before his death, we were on a grass point on a nearby lake. Opening day was a noon start. Two so called hunters came out 10 min. before open and threw out four dekes 20 yards to the right. When the ducks started our way the would flare real bad. When we got to looking to see why, These so called hunters had their shirts off sunbathing and waving white flags when ever the birds came near. Needles to say my dad mistook one of their dekes as one that swam in and sunk it. They left with out a word.

[tornadochaser]

buddy and i skipped a day of college to drive home and hunt a public slough after my dad had been reporting shooting limits of mallards all week long. we got home in time to get an evening hunt in; mostly just going to watch how the birds were flying and try to gauge how to setup for the morning. two high school aged kids, whom we recognized, came walking down the shoreline and proceeded to sit 40 yards to our left. no decoys, no calls, just sat down on the edge for whatever reason and proceeded to shoot at any duck that worked our spread. they quickly racked up 5 hen wood ducks and a few barn swallows before we could even tell them they were shooting illegally. cellphones were a luxury back then, so my only recourse was to pick up my spread, walk out without firing a shot, and begin to berate the one kids dad for not supervising his kids and telling him that if i ever saw them out there again that i wouldnt hesitate to call in some favors with the warden and the county sherriff. three or four weeks later, i guess the two kids got busted shining deer and shooting them with a .22; one lost his truck, the other got a 1K fine.

[Brent4Hire]

One of our first hunts last fall saw us out with a couple clients on a field where the farmer is pretty generous with permissions. We went in early to make sure we got the X because we scouted good numbers the night before and saw quite a few trucks and suv's slowing down passing the field. We set up at about 4 and tucked in for a 2 hour nap. Just before dawn a truck pulls into the field. We walk out to meet the truck and this fat-f@ck of a 17 year old gets out and tries to pull hi "I'm a tough-guy" routine until his father got out and saw who he was talking to - then he promptly told his kid to shut up and asked us why we were there...uh...lawn-bowling...:rolleyes:

They were offered to set up with us - we had a much better spread and the sun was about to come up, but they went a good ways back and set up. We let a lot of birds go inside us so they would get a shot, as the father was a client at the store we were working from, but his son came extremely close to being taught that talking like a man don't make you a man...

Most of the big conflicts up this way play out on the forums between the outfitters and weekend warriors - a few outfitters have huge areas of land tied up and a guy can't get out for a hunt himself...one guy in particular only takes clients with him, so he'll have a bunch of fields locked up and he's only in one - guys have gotten pretty angry with him since we don't have leases here, and they have started bangin' ditches on him and settin' up crap spreads near him when possible...it gets pretty animated...and entertaining.

[hoyt]

Buddy and i were hunting out on the river nad we parked the boat on the back side of the point walked about 50 or do yards and set up hour latter we hear some shots behind us. no big deal after we limit out we walk back to get the boats to pick up decoys and some jag off if hunting out of my boat. set up decoys and the whole works robo duck next to my motor he even set up my blind. kicked him out of the boat and he gets bucky and gets in his boat and runs over a couple of my decoys. After we picked up and started to leave we meet mr jag off on the river it seems that some of my decoy line wound around his prop and now he is stuck.....lol.....gave hime that ol 1 finger salute and kept going.......

another time we were out on the youth duck hunt and we had some guy motor up to us that was fishing and ask what kind of calls we were using and what brand of decoys......motors right into our decoys and beaches his boat where we are standing. and just starts flaping away......

[legband]

Buddy and i were hunting out on the river nad we parked the boat on the back side of the point walked about 50 or do yards and set up hour latter we hear some shots behind us. no big deal after we limit out we walk back to get the boats to pick up decoys and some jag off if hunting out of my boat. set up decoys and the whole works robo duck next to my motor he even set up my blind. kicked him out of the boat and he gets bucky and gets in his boat and runs over a couple of my decoys. After we picked up and started to leave we meet mr jag off on the river it seems that some of my decoy line wound around his prop and now he is stuck.....lol.....gave hime that ol 1 finger salute and kept going.......

another time we were out on the youth duck hunt and we had some guy motor up to us that was fishing and ask what kind of calls we were using and what brand of decoys......motors right into our decoys and beaches his boat where we are standing. and just starts flaping away......
was that a true story? ...lol..i would have came unglued if that happened to me it would have looked like a linebacker chasin a quarterback and i would have tackled him and did some WWF sh*t to him

[hoyt]

both true, the guy has done crap like that to a couple of other people to that i know. One time last year he set up on the other side of a slough from my buddies dad and put his decoys out between the two of them and said that if my buddies dad didn't like how he setup and did. like getting shot at he should probally leave. To bad for that guy that my buddies dads brother in law is a cop and he is good friends with a warden so i think he got in a little trouble over that. Just goes to show what MORONS some people are and how little comon sense that they have..................................WWF stuff that would have been sweet like a flying elbow drop off the top of the motor....or maybe a little Jhon Cena you cant see me 5 nuckle shuffle......

[auto-5]

Me and my dad were set up in a back water slough and a 14 year old slipped up on us and shot our decoys. I ran out of breath chasing him. After the season was over we found out who done the deed. He said he was sorry. Far as i know he hasnt picked up a gun in 5 years

[corybdesign]

there's a big difference between an "oops" and a "douchebag" ;)

[rascal]

lol..........no comment.......there's not enough gigawatts or megs of ram..on this system for me to get into this one.....

[salthunter]

maybe the worst.
A buddy and I had made a stilt blind in the middle of the lake and surrounded the blind with a couple hundred trees,.. looked like an island and was fun shooting down into birds.
It was a public lake and a couple groups used it during the week.
We were using it in the evening and Saturdays.
A foggy morning somehow we found the blind. We unloaded the gear in the blind and started putting out decoys. I could hear another boat in the distance and told my buddy to kill the light and I would push pole. I figured the other hunters knew we were at the blind and were trying to find us. We had about 100 out of 180 decoys out when two fellows with a couple boys showed up. They were cordial at first. The one fellow said we should flip for the blind,.. I said I would be willing to do that if they had been here earlier,.. I was ready to ask them to join us,( expecting them to say no because the blind was made for 2) The one guy goes off how thye had been looking for over an hour,... Then he directed some rough language and a threat towards my buddy, who by now was more than game for a fight. I hit reverse on the boat at the same time as the other driver in the other boat. The one fellow apologized for his buddy ,..
I made some comments about what they were teaching the boys acting the way they were.
We had a good hunt,.. That afternoon my buddy got us sole permission on 7,000 acres of flooded pasture. I told him that would make up for the destroyed blind,.. My buddy was confused. I told my buddy the first chance the hot head would have he would wreck the blind. On tuesday only stumps were left.
A few years later my buddy was at a Firemans fundraiser. The hot-head was telling the story about scaring some guys on the lake and bragging about cutting down the blind. and how he was going to beat the one fellow. My buddy walked over, introduced himself as the fellow he was talking about,, the story ended

[don835]

My buddy and I hunted the Platte River for 30 years, same spot. We knew all the other hunters in the area.
One day we watched a lone Goose work a blind up river. They took it high and crippled it. The Goose sailed toward us and fell dead in the main channel. We decided to go get the Goose for the guys up river. We busted our butts getting this damn Goose. I went over my waders in deep water as well.
Anyway, I have the Goose in hand and start heading back to the blind when a boat comes roaring up. As he slowed down, the wake from the boat damn near knocked me over. One guy yells "gimmie my Goose I shot it and it's mine". The boat starts drifting toward me in waist deep water and the guy goes off with the "F" bombs calling me every name in the book.
I yell back " here...take the SOB". I throw the Goose at the boat purposly missing...further into the main channel. They had a hellova time retrieving the Goose as it got hung up in some brush along the bank. To this day I still can't understand why they acted like they did.

Murph.

[Brent4Hire]

The worst I know of up here is not so much a conflict as it is a tragedy. A young man by the name of Josh Leger was setting up a decoy rig in a field (he was a friend of my hunting partner), and some idiot poacher opened fire with a .22 from across the field thinking they were geese. Josh received a bullet in the head and died at the scene - great hunter, great guy, and a tragic loss.

[jlog2483]

The worst I know of up here is not so much a conflict as it is a tragedy. A young man by the name of Josh Leger was setting up a decoy rig in a field (he was a friend of my hunting partner), and some idiot poacher opened fire with a .22 from across the field thinking they were geese. Josh received a bullet in the head and died at the scene - great hunter, great guy, and a tragic loss.

I think I read about this on the Avery site a while back. Tragedy for sure. I just dont understand the point of shooting birds like that. Put in the time, set decoys, and work for it. Thats why its a sport. Any idiot can kill birds like that. HUNTING NOT KILLING.

[corybdesign]

here's one for ya - i was hunting a managed area where you pick your spot for the day. i'd had my decoys set up for a while but nothing was really happening. through the cover there were some guys on the levee talking and stuff so i went over to see if they were lost or what. apparently the new person at the check station forgot to flip my area as taken. so i invited them to hunt with me and we all got along....amazing isnt it? ;)

[Ruddy]

almost had things go to a fist fight a couple times

[blackfootwaterfowlers]

lol i have a good one for you guys. first day last year we been watching this wheat field all week only 60 birds at the most but it was all smaller flocks showing up. Sure i had 10 other fields that had over 200+ birds in them but i decided to stay away beacuse there was 10 trucks scouting all those fields and i didnt see anyone drive past my field yet. so we show up early in the morning and set everything up. and to give you some more info on this hunt they were landing in the back of the field so thats where we set up and the way we were facing they were coming strait out in front of us across the field. and there was a little woodline behind us about 70 yards. well 6:00 comes around and some illertate shows up drives right through the field and almost runs over the camera blind!!!!!! so i went to greet the guy and he got out of the truck and said where the F**K you guys from. lol right then in their i wanted to lay this 50 yr old on his A$$. and i said excuse me bro but thats not a repectful way to greet someone especially when theres just 1 of you and i would of invited you to hunt but since you greeted me like that you can move along to plan B. and just when it couldnt get any better this guy goes my plan be is hunting behind you guys. right then in their it took all i had not to lambase this guy just for being disrespectful. so i go oooo really i said have fun beacuse if i get peppered theres really going to be a problem. well he went off behind us which he has not a shot in hell because the birds are coming from infront of us lol so first flock showed up there was 15 or so birds we let them land 15 yards infront of our blind haha so 5 minutes later another flock of 10 showed up and they touched the ground and we hammered 13 birds. and i looked back at the guy and he was picking up and leaving haha. so the next day i have a email and its the guy he must of got it off our website www.easternassaultwaterfowl.com (http://www.easternassaultwaterfowl.com) and he said that hes callin the game commission and telling them we were shooting birds off the ground lol Im like listen hear buddy theres no law about that and your just pissed off because we are good enough to let birds land and let birds finish 2 inches off the decoys head. and thats called winning unlike you who sit in woodsline and shoot birds flying over the trees. i was like your wrong one in the first place and unsportsmans like and have no respect. i told him that his best bet is to quit the sport of waterfowling beacuse your just hurting all the other hunters and guys like you ruin the sport. like i dont get people if you show up to a field and you see lights just keep on going like whats so hard about it i dont understand. if i got beat i would go to plan B and if i didnt have another plan i would go to the nearest field that the birds have to fly over with the same vegitation and run traffic and kill just as many birds and have just as much fun. but then again some people are just plain out disrespectful

[Locked&Landing]

Was hunting with my 74 yr old father here in PA...We were about 50 yards apart with 4 dz dekes set out. A few guys creep in on my dad about 10 minutes before light. My dad never heard them for he is a little slight in the hearing nowadays. My father shot a beautiful Drake Gadwall and a few Widgeons...These guys are yelling at him for taking their spot that they have been hunting all week...1st off the blinds are only open 4 days a week..And we were there for 3 of em, in the same exact spot..
One guy about 25 or so, comes over to my dad telling him he needs to leave or he will be sorry. Threatens my father that he will start shooting right over his head, and then was going to kick his old ass....Well they did'nt know I was in the cattails 50yds away...I walk out, and they are still at it with my dad..Well needless to say, we wait, get our limit and leave..Who follows us, but 2 punks..We get to the truck and the wise guy spits on my dads window...Well needless to say, after he had his jaw wired shut for 6 weeks, and his buddy had a broken chhek bone..I dont think they will mess with any older fellows again...By the way..I had the assult charges dropped...Not a hard guy by any means...But wont ever let anyone threaten my father!

[legband]

thats good your pops beat the piss out of those s.o.b's around here some of these guys wont even argue face to face if they dont want you on a lake or slough they pop your boat trailer tires or truck tires. Hasnt happened to me yet but i know guys it has. Id be in prison if i caught who has been doin that.

[Gary]

i got a spot where the birds come in between sun up & noon !! bad thing is so do some other guys !!! cover is very limited , {cut grass} 2 counter this i hunt my layout grassed. the birds seem 2 always come from the right or over the house from behind me so i set a couple birds around bme and the rest out about 50yds so they drop in between me and the decs . well i set up 45mins before shootin time , 5 mins before 2 trucks pull in and out get 3 guys from each !! i sit up and even move some decs 2 let my posistion known .they set up there birds away from them and sit in a couple bushes behind my decoys at about 60yards infront of me !!!! i was ready 2 walk over there when a flock of 5-6 birds comes over the house , they dump right where my kill zone is , these guys start peekin out 2 find the birds. the birds hear them talkin and move closer 2 me , i could of grabbed them they were so close !! the guys being directly infront of me i had no shot . 20 mins later the birds get right next 2 me when i jump out and pop my limit , the remaining birds circle where the other guys finish them off !!!! i walk over 2 them and the first thing the guy says is wow man i wouldn't of been able 2 wait that long !!! i tell him well if u wern't infront of me at 60yards i wouldn't ,he then says we were gonna shoot but we didn't wanna hit ur decoys !!!!!!! i said what about me ????? he studdard and says that 2 !!! i figured at this point he has no brains & an arguement is pointless , being around limited hunting space and idiots is difficult but it makes us better hunters and makes us more addaptable !!!!its amazing more people dont get shot over stupidity

[blackfootwaterfowlers]

Want to hear a really good story please if you guys could tell me whos right and whos wrong. Well i was scouting sunday and i found some birds there was about 100 of them and I hunted this place before and got permish so i went back to the landowner to seal the deal. well monday comes around i send one of my guys to watch it and he calls me in school saying they showed up. tuesday rolls around hes scoutin it again and calls me and said their hear again. wensday rolls around and i scout it after school and theres birds on it. But also i see someone i know really well who hunts drives past the place and sees me sitting their well i call him later on that night and told him ill be hunting their saturday and he said no problem i just got back from sealin the deal with another landowner down the road i said ok. well thursday rolls around and what do you know theres 200+ at this spot and i leave and im going down the road and i see the person i know going down another road close by well i call him and ask him if hes hunting this certain spot beacuse my buddy who was scouting my spot said their was birds down another road about 2 miles away and i call this guy and said hey there was birds in such n such field this morning is that where you guys are hunting and he said no but its a back up where hunting out on Sandy Road. i said Listen i told you since wendsday i was hunting their and you told me you had a spot and got permish on another spot. and he said well theirs no birds at my spot now there all at sandy road i said ya and i told you 2 days ago i was going to be in their. well friday rolls around and he text me and said john doe just drove past such and such field and said you guys are good to go. Now when i called this guy to see where he was hunting and he told me he wasnt hunting the spot i told him he was hunting somewhere else. Now 2 days later he lies to his group of buddys to cause any conflict and says that where hunting where i asked him if he was hunting. So at that point i just quit talking to the guy and said ill beat you fair and square and that WE did. and the funny thing is the group of guys he hunts with he lied to them and said that i told him we where hunting somewhere different so he doesnt look like the bad guy when really i specificly told him where i was going to be and he knew it too. and the best part was the group of guys he hunts with calls my cousin and used some bad choice of words which all his buddys aint going to believe our story so we just took it like a man and forgot about it and hunted. it just amazes me how immature and disrepecful people are. and its all over a bird. we almost let the group of guys hunt the damn place because to show them who the grown ups are but my one buddy wasnt leaving beacuse he put over 80 bucks all week scouting the place and he wasnt going to just hand out the spot. So i learned my lesson i dont tell anyone where im hunting i only tell certain people that i hunt with where were hunting anymore beacuse all it does is cause problems. but the funny thing is im like really close with this guy he's actually one of my teachers at my school and we get along good and we spend countless hours hunting together and stuff like this happens but that was a few years ago and were all cool now and where really close.

[Gary]

Want to hear a really good story please if you guys could tell me whos right and whos wrong. Well i was scouting sunday and i found some birds there was about 100 of them and I hunted this place before and got permish so i went back to the landowner to seal the deal. well monday comes around i send one of my guys to watch it and he calls me in school saying they showed up. tuesday rolls around hes scoutin it again and calls me and said their hear again. wensday rolls around and i scout it after school and theres birds on it. But also i see someone i know really well who hunts drives past the place and sees me sitting their well i call him later on that night and told him ill be hunting their saturday and he said no problem i just got back from sealin the deal with another landowner down the road i said ok. well thursday rolls around and what do you know theres 200+ at this spot and i leave and im going down the road and i see the person i know going down another road close by well i call him and ask him if hes hunting this certain spot beacuse my buddy who was scouting my spot said their was birds down another road about 2 miles away and i call this guy and said hey there was birds in such n such field this morning is that where you guys are hunting and he said no but its a back up where hunting out on Sandy Road. i said Listen i told you since wendsday i was hunting their and you told me you had a spot and got permish on another spot. and he said well theirs no birds at my spot now there all at sandy road i said ya and i told you 2 days ago i was going to be in their. well friday rolls around and he text me and said john doe just drove past such and such field and said you guys are good to go. Now when i called this guy to see where he was hunting and he told me he wasnt hunting the spot i told him he was hunting somewhere else. Now 2 days later he lies to his group of buddys to cause any conflict and says that where hunting where i asked him if he was hunting. So at that point i just quit talking to the guy and said ill beat you fair and square and that WE did. and the funny thing is the group of guys he hunts with he lied to them and said that i told him we where hunting somewhere different so he doesnt look like the bad guy when really i specificly told him where i was going to be and he knew it too. and the best part was the group of guys he hunts with calls my cousin and used some bad choice of words which all his buddys aint going to believe our story so we just took it like a man and forgot about it and hunted. it just amazes me how immature and disrepecful people are. and its all over a bird. we almost let the group of guys hunt the damn place because to show them who the grown ups are but my one buddy wasnt leaving beacuse he put over 80 bucks all week scouting the place and he wasnt going to just hand out the spot. So i learned my lesson i dont tell anyone where im hunting i only tell certain people that i hunt with where were hunting anymore beacuse all it does is cause problems. but the funny thing is im like really close with this guy he's actually one of my teachers at my school and we get along good and we spend countless hours hunting together and stuff like this happens but that was a few years ago and were all cool now and where really close.i'd say ur in the right !! stuff like that sucks !! i hunted with a guy 2-3 times on his spots that were right next 2 me !! the land owner came out & gave me permission 4 his spots as well. i never went back cause they were his spots !! i then take him 2 one of mine and the next week end he's there with 5 guys , tells the land owner i gave him permission and we all get thrown out !!! talk about a snake in the grass !!!! i hunt alone 99% of the time & now keep my spots 2 myself unless i feel some trust in my person i invite !!! its a shame ethics dont run in everybodys blood !!!

[Andrew Bremseth]

Want to hear a really good story please if you guys could tell me whos right and whos wrong. Well i was scouting sunday and i found some birds there was about 100 of them and I hunted this place before and got permish so i went back to the landowner to seal the deal. well monday comes around i send one of my guys to watch it and he calls me in school saying they showed up. tuesday rolls around hes scoutin it again and calls me and said their hear again. wensday rolls around and i scout it after school and theres birds on it. But also i see someone i know really well who hunts drives past the place and sees me sitting their well i call him later on that night and told him ill be hunting their saturday and he said no problem i just got back from sealin the deal with another landowner down the road i said ok. well thursday rolls around and what do you know theres 200+ at this spot and i leave and im going down the road and i see the person i know going down another road close by well i call him and ask him if hes hunting this certain spot beacuse my buddy who was scouting my spot said their was birds down another road about 2 miles away and i call this guy and said hey there was birds in such n such field this morning is that where you guys are hunting and he said no but its a back up where hunting out on Sandy Road. i said Listen i told you since wendsday i was hunting their and you told me you had a spot and got permish on another spot. and he said well theirs no birds at my spot now there all at sandy road i said ya and i told you 2 days ago i was going to be in their. well friday rolls around and he text me and said john doe just drove past such and such field and said you guys are good to go. Now when i called this guy to see where he was hunting and he told me he wasnt hunting the spot i told him he was hunting somewhere else. Now 2 days later he lies to his group of buddys to cause any conflict and says that where hunting where i asked him if he was hunting. So at that point i just quit talking to the guy and said ill beat you fair and square and that WE did. and the funny thing is the group of guys he hunts with he lied to them and said that i told him we where hunting somewhere different so he doesnt look like the bad guy when really i specificly told him where i was going to be and he knew it too. and the best part was the group of guys he hunts with calls my cousin and used some bad choice of words which all his buddys aint going to believe our story so we just took it like a man and forgot about it and hunted. it just amazes me how immature and disrepecful people are. and its all over a bird. we almost let the group of guys hunt the damn place because to show them who the grown ups are but my one buddy wasnt leaving beacuse he put over 80 bucks all week scouting the place and he wasnt going to just hand out the spot. So i learned my lesson i dont tell anyone where im hunting i only tell certain people that i hunt with where were hunting anymore beacuse all it does is cause problems. but the funny thing is im like really close with this guy he's actually one of my teachers at my school and we get along good and we spend countless hours hunting together and stuff like this happens but that was a few years ago and were all cool now and where really close.
That was hard to read, but what in the world are you doing letting a field sit with geese in it for that long! If I see geese in a field 2 days in a row, I am in that field no matter what on the 3rd day. You were just asking to get burned by the birds, if not other hunters.

[legband]

Want to hear a really good story please if you guys could tell me whos right and whos wrong. Well i was scouting sunday and i found some birds there was about 100 of them and I hunted this place before and got permish so i went back to the landowner to seal the deal. well monday comes around i send one of my guys to watch it and he calls me in school saying they showed up. tuesday rolls around hes scoutin it again and calls me and said their hear again. wensday rolls around and i scout it after school and theres birds on it. But also i see someone i know really well who hunts drives past the place and sees me sitting their well i call him later on that night and told him ill be hunting their saturday and he said no problem i just got back from sealin the deal with another landowner down the road i said ok. well thursday rolls around and what do you know theres 200+ at this spot and i leave and im going down the road and i see the person i know going down another road close by well i call him and ask him if hes hunting this certain spot beacuse my buddy who was scouting my spot said their was birds down another road about 2 miles away and i call this guy and said hey there was birds in such n such field this morning is that where you guys are hunting and he said no but its a back up where hunting out on Sandy Road. i said Listen i told you since wendsday i was hunting their and you told me you had a spot and got permish on another spot. and he said well theirs no birds at my spot now there all at sandy road i said ya and i told you 2 days ago i was going to be in their. well friday rolls around and he text me and said john doe just drove past such and such field and said you guys are good to go. Now when i called this guy to see where he was hunting and he told me he wasnt hunting the spot i told him he was hunting somewhere else. Now 2 days later he lies to his group of buddys to cause any conflict and says that where hunting where i asked him if he was hunting. So at that point i just quit talking to the guy and said ill beat you fair and square and that WE did. and the funny thing is the group of guys he hunts with he lied to them and said that i told him we where hunting somewhere different so he doesnt look like the bad guy when really i specificly told him where i was going to be and he knew it too. and the best part was the group of guys he hunts with calls my cousin and used some bad choice of words which all his buddys aint going to believe our story so we just took it like a man and forgot about it and hunted. it just amazes me how immature and disrepecful people are. and its all over a bird. we almost let the group of guys hunt the damn place because to show them who the grown ups are but my one buddy wasnt leaving beacuse he put over 80 bucks all week scouting the place and he wasnt going to just hand out the spot. So i learned my lesson i dont tell anyone where im hunting i only tell certain people that i hunt with where were hunting anymore beacuse all it does is cause problems. but the funny thing is im like really close with this guy he's actually one of my teachers at my school and we get along good and we spend countless hours hunting together and stuff like this happens but that was a few years ago and were all cool now and where really close.
If your gonna scout and find birds if you hunt them the next day you will have alot less problems like that,longer you wait the more guys there are gonna see the birds in the field. Find em smash em and move on

[blackfootwaterfowlers]

yea i wish i could of done that but i was still in high school so i could only hunt weekends and maybe a week day hear in their but it was towards the end of the year and i have already missed like 25 days of school so my parents wouldnt allow me to miss but now that im out of school and not going to college and ill be off from october til april things are going to be a little different

[salthunter]

legband
A couple of things, you only share information with fellows that you can trust. In some ways I dont what to know what others are doing,.. or what Im doing.
Also getting permission doesnt mean you generally have exclusive permission. I dont think it is practical to expect others to stay off a field 3-4, 5 days. . Me Ill stay off a field 1 or 2 days,.. thats it and only if I have a friendly agreement with the others.
I had a fellow call me this fall ,.. asked me about a field,.. I was literally ready to step out the door for the evening shoot,.. Ive never met the guy,.. I kept my mouth shut, knowing he would be scouting the field that evening, hoping I could be off the field before he showed.
And he ended up being a jerk about it, drove up on the field and parked 250 yards from my set up that evening. Luckly a flight came in low and I finished,.. how that must have hurt watching me pull a clean triple

You can't wait for birds and cant expect others to wait on you. Keep your grades up: Take the morning off school and go hunt

[blackfootwaterfowlers]

That was hard to read, but what in the world are you doing letting a field sit with geese in it for that long! If I see geese in a field 2 days in a row, I am in that field no matter what on the 3rd day. You were just asking to get burned by the birds, if not other hunters.


yea i know its hard to read if you keep reading it over and over it will make sense and yea i know we should of hunted it but then again everyone i hunt with is still in high school so we only get holidays and weekends to hunt and maybe a weekday hear and their but this years going to be totally different ;)

[hoyt]

I would have stayed home sick with the bird flu.................:rolleyes:

[corybdesign]

Want to hear a really good story please if you guys could tell me whos right and whos wrong. Well i was scouting sunday and i found some birds there was about 100 of them and I hunted this place before and got permish so i went back to the landowner to seal the deal. well monday comes around i send one of my guys to watch it and he calls me in school saying they showed up. tuesday rolls around hes scoutin it again and calls me and said their hear again. wensday rolls around and i scout it after school and theres birds on it. But also i see someone i know really well who hunts drives past the place and sees me sitting their well i call him later on that night and told him ill be hunting their saturday and he said no problem i just got back from sealin the deal with another landowner down the road i said ok. well thursday rolls around and what do you know theres 200+ at this spot and i leave and im going down the road and i see the person i know going down another road close by well i call him and ask him if hes hunting this certain spot beacuse my buddy who was scouting my spot said their was birds down another road about 2 miles away and i call this guy and said hey there was birds in such n such field this morning is that where you guys are hunting and he said no but its a back up where hunting out on Sandy Road. i said Listen i told you since wendsday i was hunting their and you told me you had a spot and got permish on another spot. and he said well theirs no birds at my spot now there all at sandy road i said ya and i told you 2 days ago i was going to be in their. well friday rolls around and he text me and said john doe just drove past such and such field and said you guys are good to go. Now when i called this guy to see where he was hunting and he told me he wasnt hunting the spot i told him he was hunting somewhere else. Now 2 days later he lies to his group of buddys to cause any conflict and says that where hunting where i asked him if he was hunting. So at that point i just quit talking to the guy and said ill beat you fair and square and that WE did. and the funny thing is the group of guys he hunts with he lied to them and said that i told him we where hunting somewhere different so he doesnt look like the bad guy when really i specificly told him where i was going to be and he knew it too. and the best part was the group of guys he hunts with calls my cousin and used some bad choice of words which all his buddys aint going to believe our story so we just took it like a man and forgot about it and hunted. it just amazes me how immature and disrepecful people are. and its all over a bird. we almost let the group of guys hunt the damn place because to show them who the grown ups are but my one buddy wasnt leaving beacuse he put over 80 bucks all week scouting the place and he wasnt going to just hand out the spot. So i learned my lesson i dont tell anyone where im hunting i only tell certain people that i hunt with where were hunting anymore beacuse all it does is cause problems. but the funny thing is im like really close with this guy he's actually one of my teachers at my school and we get along good and we spend countless hours hunting together and stuff like this happens but that was a few years ago and were all cool now and where really close.

In my opinion you cant call dibs on a field a week ahead of time. what if that guy was cool all week and by the time you can hunt the birds are gone? someone lost out on a good hunt. night before you can call dibs, 24 hours i think is ok too. 48 hours i think is pushin it and after that is ridiculous in my book. now i would say im hunting saturday am, please dont hunt it friday and thursday would be nice if you have other spots just so its rested. my .02

[SBE II]

If I share permission with someone, we have spoke beginning to the season or during that period time. We talk about the number of people that will be hunting with each other, if the number is too high to hunt together then it's game on. The one that does the scoutin and gets in theres and cleans house, obviously deserved that hunt.

[blackfootwaterfowlers]

In my opinion you cant call dibs on a field a week ahead of time. what if that guy was cool all week and by the time you can hunt the birds are gone? someone lost out on a good hunt. night before you can call dibs, 24 hours i think is ok too. 48 hours i think is pushin it and after that is ridiculous in my book. now i would say im hunting saturday am, please dont hunt it friday and thursday would be nice if you have other spots just so its rested. my .02


well I knew for a fact that there was going to be geese there all week beacuse everything was froze and theres 2 pumps in the pond and a corn field that came up to the edge of the pond so there was food and water their. But its not even about calling dibs i just told him i was hunting their saturday and he told me its fine i just got permish down the road 2 miles and then 2 days later he says hes hunting my spot and he said i told him i was hunting somewhere different? thats a d*** move

[corybdesign]

well I knew for a fact that there was going to be geese there all week beacuse everything was froze and theres 2 pumps in the pond and a corn field that came up to the edge of the pond so there was food and water their. But its not even about calling dibs i just told him i was hunting their saturday and he told me its fine i just got permish down the road 2 miles and then 2 days later he says hes hunting my spot and he said i told him i was hunting somewhere different? thats a d*** move

you were scouting sunday and hunting saturday...thats a week...things change in a week...you can't be pissed because everything froze and the birds went there and the guy wanted to hunt where there were birds...:rolleyes:

[blackfootwaterfowlers]

yea i know what you mean but i should of went in there like tuesday and slaughtered them but then again im only in high school so i can only miss like 30 days and i was almost right around that mark so i couldnt miss. but all well who really cares i beat him to the spot fair and square. i learned my lesson shut my mouth, find birds, scout em, bangem, get out, no waiting 6 days, scout, scout, bang, scout scout bang

[legband]

My grandpa used to tell me about back in the 50's and 60's how no one cared if u hunted on there land he would never get turned down and most guys knew they didnt even need to ask.Was never any probelms.Now days at least around here the nice farmers will let everyone hunt and it will either make it hard to hunt the field or else some jag off will ruin it for everyone. I drive around alot and knock on random farmers doors whenever i see birds,and more and more of them are nice guys that normally would let someone but they have been burned before or else are afraid of being sued if something happens..cant say i blame them but it just sucks for the hunters

[Jayson Wilt]

lol..........no comment.......there's not enough gigawatts or megs of ram..on this system for me to get into this one.....

Two words for ya Rascal "Uncle Joey"

[Andrew Bremseth]

My grandpa used to tell me about back in the 50's and 60's how no one cared if u hunted on there land he would never get turned down and most guys knew they didnt even need to ask.Was never any probelms.Now days at least around here the nice farmers will let everyone hunt and it will either make it hard to hunt the field or else some jag off will ruin it for everyone. I drive around alot and knock on random farmers doors whenever i see birds,and more and more of them are nice guys that normally would let someone but they have been burned before or else are afraid of being sued if something happens..cant say i blame them but it just sucks for the hunters
Yep... I have no two spots that I ever hunt in the same year. I scout my ass off all the time and knock on many, many farmers doors that I don't know. I have had mixed results by asking, I would say I get a yes maybe about 50% of the time, but it's something to hunt. It always helps to go back after you are done and just have a nice conversation and tell them how you did. If they arent busy stay and chat, if they are busy just say I wanted to say thanks again and move along. A lot of times I send gift-cards and bring jerky and whatever else I make to them throughout the year. I have noticed my rate of being granted permission has gone up great over the years. A lot of times during those conversations you hear about the yahoo hunters who have given the landowners a bad taste in their mouth.. but when the right person comes along, they can mend that relationship for everyone.

[SBE II]

Andrew,

I have to agree, you have to take care of the hand that feeds you. Problem is around here, we do so much of chasing resident birds that these birds are committed to the same places year after year, so it's always a fight to keep land. One thing I have noticed is that if you have something the farmers need, tires, irrigation, tools...whatever, their your best friend and their willing to give anything. But the majority of us don't have those things so like you said you have to walk that line.

[Gary]

Andrew,

I have to agree, you have to take care of the hand that feeds you. Problem is around here, we do so much of chasing resident birds that these birds are committed to the same places year after year, so it's always a fight to keep land. One thing I have noticed is that if you have something the farmers need, tires, irrigation, tools...whatever, their your best friend and their willing to give anything. But the majority of us don't have those things so like you said you have to walk that line.agree on that !!! i have one spot 2 myselg and that is a cousins !! everything else is those spots u mention where thr res. birds hit on aa daily basis and 4 groups of guys sttandin around a 5acre pond is normal !! if were lucky enough 2 have the corn off by time the migrators come then there everywhere , if not like last year they just keep on movin & then the chase is on !!! bein mobile and adaptable 2 the pressure is the key in my huntin grounds

[corybdesign]

Andrew,

I have to agree, you have to take care of the hand that feeds you. Problem is around here, we do so much of chasing resident birds that these birds are committed to the same places year after year, so it's always a fight to keep land. One thing I have noticed is that if you have something the farmers need, tires, irrigation, tools...whatever, their your best friend and their willing to give anything. But the majority of us don't have those things so like you said you have to walk that line.

the other problem i see alot of is the group of 4 or so jacka$$es that try to get exclusive permission on every field in 3 counties. then 95% of what they've tied up goes unhunted and everyone else is fighting for a spot. what we do is get exclusive on a few good fields we know we'll hunt alot and after that just get daily permission as birds move.

[legband]

The best field i have ever had for geese was just a plain hay field with a waterhole next to it. We hunted that field during the september nusinance season for a good 8 years and killed literally hundreds of geese out of it. Was hot year after year and in a flywaway. Couple years ago some guys saw us smashin em and gave the farmer a bunch of $$ we aint been able to go out there since.None of us have the money to compete with those rich boys. Lots of birds and they banded birds not to far from there so lotta bands shot also. I hate guys with money that tie up all the fields,but if i had money id be tieing up as many as i could as well i guess