Browning Gold Hunter or SBE II

[huntingbuddy]

I am looking at getting a SBE II mostly casuse I looking at getting something more reliable. Than my gold hunter that I have right now. the problem is that it is a new gun this season. But sometimes I have problems with it either not ejecting a shell at all, or it hangs up and doesnt load the shell. Should I stick with my browning and send it back and see what the problem is or go and buy a SBE II for next season?

[IowaMigr8tor]

SBE2 ALL THE WAY!!! I started with a Rem 1100 (I still have it), bought a Beretta Extreama used it one season and sold it for a Benelli SBE2. I personally dont like the bolts on the Browning and Winchester guns, just too heavy, could be your problem in the cycling. I have never had a problem with my Benelli cycling rounds. You wont be disappointed in the trade up to a Benelli.

[HRK]

have ya tore that gun down and cleaned it ???????? i have a gold hunter and a super X2, the only time they ever give me a problem is when there real dirty,clean em up and there good ta go.

PS they come outta the factory full of cosmoline that could be the problem had the same thing when they were new ,always clean a new gun

[Foilesmigrator92]

If you got the money get the SBEII

[HRK]

got one, ya want it for free?????????? 3 wk SBEII old bring your swim suit.

[rushcreekganderlander]

The only time I've ever had a problem with my Gold is when it gets real dirty as well. I still never had a heavy load shell hang up in it though. I've had problems with light loads at times but never heavy loads. Got my Dad a Nova a last year because he really wanted one and it is not as good as advertised. My one buddy just bought the Extrema II this year and he really likes it. He was going to buy a SBE II but when he checked both guns out he liked the Extrema better. His Extrema is longer than my Gold by about 4 inches so I don't really care for it. I would try cleaning your Gold up and if that doesn't work try out the other guns for size.

[Duck Hunter Paul]

I have both and the only thing I like better about my SBE II is that its a little lighter and the forearm fits in my hand a little better. My Browning was not camo'ed so I never had 1 instance where it jammed. Honestly the thing is to pretty to get dirty so I bought the SBE II. Just my .02

DHP

[IowaMigr8tor]

DIRTY? I havent cleaned my SBE2 all season, hunted rain, snow, freezing temps, flooded corn, muddy marshes, etc. Have yet to have a problem cycling, I expect alot of dirt to come pouring out when I clean it in a week.

[Foilesmigrator92]

Barry you tellin me you dropped yours in the water? :shock:

[Foilesmigrator92]

cant complain then only had limits twice and that was on mallards and bluebill :x but yeah im thinkin that if the thing almost blew my fingers off id have a few selective words and done the same thing you did

[HRK]

thats why im stayin with my X2 and gold hunter. but i do have a nova as a back up incase i get PO'd and need to make another nelli go for a swim :lol:

[HRK]

PS not sayin the benelli is a bad gun, i probably just had a lemon!!!!! i know tons of guy's who own them and swear buy them!!!! i also own 4 berettas (hand guns) and there great....... but that beneli still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and ringing ears just thinkin about it. :x

[IowaMigr8tor]

Yeah you must of had one hell of a lemon, never had a problem or known anyone with a major problem. The only thing is you have to make sure the rotating bolt is locked or it wont fire, safety feature.

[HRK]

yep know that much ,like i said the ejector pin hit the primer and KABOOM, ive pulled it up a copule times now with a big magnet cause i know right were its at!!! doesnt look all that bad for bein in the drink for 4 yrs . like i said bring your swim trunks and its yours !!!! BTW its in wetlands camo. no i dont mean the mud either ....haha..... :wink:

[Foilesmigrator92]

I mean if you wanna get it and send it to me il be more then happy to take it off your hands haha

[shootstraight]

Browning Gold. I always read the forum but never felt I really had to reply till I read this post. Bought one this year and my current lack of a girl friend is directly correlated to the guns presence in my life. Ah well... season is almost over and I can hang up the BG for a while.

[HRK]

I mean if you wanna get it and send it to me il be more then happy to take it off your hands haha

like i said bring yer swim trunks!!!!!!!and a towel and a shot of whiskey,the waters a nice cool temp of 42 degrees its 18 feet down,might need a scuba tank!!!!!!!!! come on over...fetch it up boy fetch it up ,good boy (patts on the head) :roll:

[kingkilla]

DIRTY? I havent cleaned my SBE2 all season, hunted rain, snow, freezing temps, flooded corn, muddy marshes, etc. Have yet to have a problem cycling, I expect alot of dirt to come pouring out when I clean it in a week.

iowamigr8er what about last night when it didnt shoot that last shell? did you forget about that....

hunting buddy, it doesnt matter what gun you get, every brand of guns will have its problems eventually. i have seen benellis not fire, remingtons getting hung up and not cycleing shells and i have heard of people having problems with super x2's, golds, and i have had problems with my BPS. i could sit hear all day and tell you the pros. and cons of every gun, but i would say just get whatever you want. just my 2 cents

[HRK]

DIRTY? I havent cleaned my SBE2 all season, hunted rain, snow, freezing temps, flooded corn, muddy marshes, etc. Have yet to have a problem cycling, I expect alot of dirt to come pouring out when I clean it in a week.

iowamigr8er what about last night when it didnt shoot that last shell? did you forget about that....

hunting buddy, it doesnt matter what gun you get, every brand of guns will have its problems eventually. i have seen benellis not fire, remingtons getting hung up and not cycleing shells and i have heard of people having problems with super x2's, golds, and i have had problems with my BPS. i could sit hear all day and tell you the pros. and cons of every gun, but i would say just get whatever you want. just my 2 cents

there all good guns (except my SBEII that couldnt swim) just gotta clean em once in a while :idea:

[IowaMigr8tor]

That was a hickup, seemed to shoot the next three fine.

[HRK]

That was a hickup, seemed to shoot the next three fine.

are ya sure ya had three in that there pee shooter partner????????? :oops:

[IowaMigr8tor]

Yeah I'm sure I had three in, we were seeing how fast it could shoot and I think I may have forgotten to pull the trigger on the last round. It wasnt a issue with cycling because the third round cycled into the chamber. I really think I forgot to pull the trigger, concentrating on shooting fast :lol: .

Trying to do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7HtkAkSkSQ

[HRK]

well you definatly not Tom Knapp :idea:


i was thinkin more like this

http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/just_plain_stupid/Shotgun2/

[kingkilla]

that was a little gun :wink:

[HRK]

i think he was tryin this :wink:

http://www.stupidvideos.com/video//sports/Shooter_Gone_Wild/

[kingkilla]

that guy got right with it.

[Foilesmigrator92]

Ight Barry I aint scared think i might bring my wetsuit instead though? :D

[huntingbuddy]

the thing is I baby my gun I clean it after I shoot it. That means taking the whole gun apart bolt, trigger assembly the works. The last time I cleaned it I even took the trigger assembly apart. The main thing I think is that I want a gun that I dont have to baby and that will still be reliable. I hate cleaning gas guns.

[HRK]

heres a little tip, i only clean my gun after about 5 boxes of shells , and i dont use regular gun oil or stuff with teflon in it. teflon gets sticky and attracks dirt. i use CRC powerlube and it takes me 5 minutes to clean my gun. i spray the magazine tube and piston and wipe it off, the trigger group i spray it and blow it off lightly with an air compressor and blow out the receiver.
have you ever cleaned the cycling rod in the butt stock????? if not that could be the cause of your troubles, alot of powder residue and grime gets in there, just a thought. also its no differant cleaning an inertia gun verses a gas gun. PS also i dont baby my gold hunter and its wood!! unlike my X2 in wetlands camo they both get thrown around in the boat and blind, heck its a huntin gun still kills the same new or 10yrs old

[IowaMigr8tor]

First One NO, Second one I have seen before. Tom Knapp does the same tricks as the guy in the video does. The only difference is Tom isnt afraid to dance with fire, looks like your winchester guy only likes pink smoke :lol: .

[huntingbuddy]

have you ever cleaned the cycling rod in the butt stock?????
I have tried to get in there but I cant seem to figure out how to get it out or get it off? Do you know how to do this?

[kingkilla]

that guy is way better than tom knapp.

[HRK]

HUNTING BUDDY

in the top and bottom of your butt pad there is two tiny holes sometimes hard to find about 1/2 to 3/4"" from the top and bottom of the pad right in the center,once you find them take a small phillips and put some dish soap on the screwdriver so it doesnt rip the pad and insert it into the pad and find the screws then remove the screws.once inside it takes either a large regular or 10mm socket to remove the end cap. becarefull because the spring inside has some tension on it!!! remember how things come apart if you dont have your owners manual,clean every thing real good with brake cleaner then lightly oil everything withCRC power lube or WD40 and put it back together.you'll probably find that the action bar and tube are really dirty. if ya have any more questions pm me. PS remember to take the trigger group out first

[HRK]

looks like your winchester guy only likes pink smoke :lol: .


and your point is ??????????? whats wrong with (pink) thats what a goose looks like without its feathers :!: :idea: :roll:

[IowaMigr8tor]

Well thats not controllable, the pink smoke is :?:

[HRK]

Well thats not controllable, the pink smoke is :?:

so he's gotta thing for pink 8) at least he remembers to pull the trigger.....haha....

[IowaMigr8tor]

If there were geese flying I would of remebered! LOL

[kingkilla]

how can you not remeber to pull the trigger. that was the whole point of the excercise. i think that your benelli messed up and you dont want to agmit it.

[IowaMigr8tor]

Well you forget to load your gun and when your are concentrating on pulling the trigger fast it is possible to forget to pull. Lets see your BPS shoot that fast. LOL.

[HRK]

KILLER MILLER
your turn!!! its hammertime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[IowaMigr8tor]

This is great, it really doesnt mean anything.

[HRK]

i know just messin with ya guy's. i know your all bud's !!!!! :wink:

[marshmaster]

JUST MY 2 CENTS BUT I HAVE BOTH A SBE I AND A SBE II AND SWEAR BY THEM BOTH JUST THE OTHER DAY I WAS HUNTING IN A DOWN POUR AND MY SBE II WORKED ALL MORNING WITHOUT A HITCH. TWO GUYS THAT I HUNT WITH BOTH SHOOT A BROWNING GOLD AND AFTER SHOOTING MY SBE, BOTH GUYS WANT A BENELLI. I PERSONALY CANT UNDERSTAND WHY BROWNING CHOSE TO MAKE THEIR FLAGSHIP GUN JUST LIKE TWO OTHER GUNS ON THE MARKET AKA SX2-11\87 . I WISH THEY WOULD HAVE JUST UPDATED A TIMELESS CLASSIC , THE A-5.

[HRK]

the X2 is the same as the browning gold IE:( the same gun and company)the X2 is built off of the browning frame the only differance is the X2 doesnt have the magazine cut off on it. and its built a little more heavier in the reciever for magnum rounds, other than that all parts interchange.its built for the waterfowlers, unlike the gold which is more on the line of an upland gun even though some golds are camo. the 11/87 is not even close to the same build as a X2 or gold. it also has a gas (o) ring ahead of the piston that burns up all the time so carry a spare!!

[SMOKE]

ignore the iowa boys and buy a super x2 or 3 :lol:

[HRK]

ignore the iowa boys and buy a super x2 or 3


YEA brother :wink:

[kingkilla]

i told you steve that im going to be getting one soon.

[SMOKE]

ok ignore them all but Al LOL sorry bout that buddy :shock:

[IowaMigr8tor]

If you look at our pic's, MOST of those birds were taken by BENELLI! If it is possible you need to shoot both guns. I feel that the Benelli fits my needs the best and after purchasing one and using it in the field it is a hard gun to beat.
Have you guys ever seen the **** they do to glocks? Freeze them, burry them in the sand, drown them, etc. Well you can do all that to my Benelli and it will still out shoot your Winchesters, :lol: .

[HRK]

here we go again............................its like that chevy vs. ford thing!!!!!! or patrick flanagan (winchester) vs. tom knapp (benelli) or my 10 ga will kill birds farther than your 12 ga. the proofs in the puddin. its just a matter of what you like and what fits you the best! they are all good guns and hey whatever kills birds right. the whole point here is killin birds. what gun or truck for that matter doesnt have a problem from time to time,,,,,,,,,,,,so shoot what ya like and drive what ya like :wink:

[HRK]

kingkilla

now you sound like H-UNIT thats one hell of a good explanation

Definition of a Goose hunter: (goosehunt'er)
1. Predator who's summer skin sheds to a natural camoflauge each fall.
2. When accurate can cause deep and deadly penetration
3. Often found hiding in cornfields

i like it :wink:

[HRK]

patrick flanigan with his super X2

http://www.patrickflanigan.com/videos/8hip.wmv

http://www.patrickflanigan.com/videos/past_to_present.wmv

there the proofs in the puddin :wink:

PS this was for your entertainment only.......................... :D

[h20fowler]

Definition of a Goose hunter: (goosehunt'er)
1. Predator who's summer skin sheds to a natural camoflauge each fall.
2. When accurate can cause deep and deadly penetration
3. Often found hiding in cornfields

That's a Molt Gear Production right there... Scott Threinen

But he left out 4--- Dislikes all things in ditches (animal or human)

[SMOKE]

Well you can do all that to my Benelli and it will still out shoot your Winchesters, .



try it then haha :lol:

[HRK]

UUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH smoke, says you got a X2 in your posts???????

[SMOKE]

lol yeah and its brand new. we will let him try it first :lol:


wait a tick isnt Al buyin one......i smell an iowa strait meat killin crew challenge haha


you got one two dont ya barry?

[HRK]

Well you can do all that to my Benelli and it will still out shoot your Winchesters,:


kinda lost here??? dont quite get it??? you got a nelli and a X2????

yea i got a X2 with a sure cycle system in it just for the reason its all stainless and it actually made my gun work even better over the factory cycling system not that i ever had any problems unless the thing was filthy dirty and needed cleaning. but i take the challange againt a nelli any day of the week witha mag extension or not and i guarantee it'll be astrait up even match.....................

[SMOKE]

lol htats a quote for iowamigrator


got all i need in the x2 wouldnt have anything else.

[HRK]

SMOKE
man ya gotta get one of them complete sure cycle kits for yor X2. man that cycling system in the stock is awsome havent clean it in two years, not an ounce of crap in it!!! took 20 percent out of what little recoil that gun has and talk about smooth!!!!! kinda like a hyperchip for your truck :wink:

[SMOKE]

lol i dont clean mine that often as it is. i really dont think they kick that much. ive thought about tryin a one handed shot just to see.

[IowaMigr8tor]

Why are your guys buying aftermarket cylcing systems for your guns :?:. My benelli is all stock with the exception of the PM. :lol:

[HRK]

as you know blued steel rusts thats why i put one in. its the most neglected part of any gun, checked yours???? plus its a pain in the but to clean on any auto gun!!!!!

OK now ya got that thorn stuck in my side thing going.......

so heres the deal. ya wanna go heads up???? gonna try and make it to pittsfeild this spring. you name the place and time and we'll have a show down. which gun ya want me to bring???????? now remember this!!! i shoot roughly 10 to 15 thousand registerd targets in sporting clays per year, and have an average score of 92 out of 100. i can bring my $1000.00 X2 or my $12000.00 kreigholf K80 super scroll with my kolar tube set and go any gauge from 410 to 12. i'll give you the benefit of dought and go heads up 410 against 12 ga, trap ,skeet or sporting you name it!!! **** i'll even shoot doubles against two of ya at the same time shot for shot. so can you put yer money where your mouth is????? i can. GAME ON IOWAMIGR8TOR???????

[SMOKE]

mine is stock except for the stickers :D

[SMOKE]

lol were beatin another dead horse....

[Drake Whistle]

hunters ridge is turning up the heat!!!

[HRK]

lol were beatin another dead horse....


no not at all they like there nelli's we like our X2's....hey the way i see it is if they can talk the talk can they walk the walk???????? :wink:

[SMOKE]

why do i have a feelin there is gonna be a superx2 and a benellin a foot underground somewhere in iowa haha

[HRK]

SMOKE
ya want me to pick ya up on the way down!!!!! have some fun a couple beers, oh and bring a shovel :wink: PS not for the X2.........

[SMOKE]

lol im south of them guys haha but i will be at ww3 :lol:

[huntingbuddy]

well you guys have convinced me to just keep my Browning. But I will be buying a PM choke and a sure cycle kit for. Which PM choke do you recommend? I will most likely be doing mostly goose hunting with some ducks mixed in.

[HRK]

just the standerd extended. sticks out about an inch, the long range tube sticks out like 2 inches, also the long range tube is meant for 3 1/2 ' shells but the standard extended works good with all shells.

[Midwest]

If you guys would just buy a Beretta you wouldn't even be having this conversation :!: :!:

[HRK]

yea thats a good gun to but the palm grip fells like yer holdin a coke can, man that grip is big. plus no one else brought that up.also it doesnt shoulder good for me unlike the X2 or benelli

[huntingbuddy]

yea thats a good gun to but the palm grip fells like yer holdin a coke can, man that grip is big. plus no one else brought that up.also it doesnt shoulder good for me unlike the X2 or benelli

same here

[IowaMigr8tor]

There might have to be a benelli and winchester a foot under the Iowa soil, since this is a dependability and durability issue. Here is the way I'm going to look at it: what does it matter if you can hit clay? Because if your gun cant function when it is punch time then it doesnt matter. In the time that I worked at a Gunsmith I never had a Benelli come in with an issue, other manufacturer's, well, we were constantly backed up with them.
I'm sure that I could shoot the same score in clays with my Benelli as I could with my Remington as I could with your X2. Look at my needs in a gun as a waterfowler: Dependable, Light weight, Fast shooting, 3 1/2 in capability, and most important LEFT HANDED. Of which there are really only two manufacturers that meet those criteria: Remington and Benelli. That was a driving force behind my purchase of Benelli.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBgBhwafGM

480,000 + shells documented, holy ****.

This is a dead horse.

[SMOKE]

i got the ext choke in mine.

i like the extrema as well but the x2 shouldered better on me as well.

[IowaMigr8tor]

Had the beretta traded it in for the Benelli. I liked the beretta but the only downfall is lugging that thing around Pheasant hunting, just a touch too heavy.

[HRK]

huntingbuddy
make sure to take yor gun to a good gunsmith for that kit installation also get the kit for the magazine tube also.bought mine at gander mountain but it think cabelas has em also.

PS thought of some thing do you shoot the same shells all the time or differant brands????

[HRK]

IOWA

been shootin registered targets for about 10 yrs so i think more like 150-200 thousand in ten yrs, i dunno??? yea i reload at least 10-20 thousand a year, some times i run out and sometimes have some left over depending on what i shoot per year.

ya know whats really weird here is that my best freind of ten yrs is a gunsmith and hees seen them all with problems, i mean every auto made. the biggest thing with a waterfowl gun is keepin it cleen, these guy's were bringing in there guns complaining that there were a POS they were just dirty and the cycling systems were rusty from water gettin inside them , thats why i put a sure cycle system in mine so that i wouldnt never have a problem and never have had one. so iguess we killed that horse didnt we......haha :wink:

[SMOKE]

lol 3 pages ago......but im just as guilty as u guys. bottom line like barry said proof is in the puddin. i put down birds with my sx2 this year barry has too and we all know by the pics from the iowa boys they can deffinately put the hurtin on the ducks and geese.

[HRK]

lol 3 pages ago......but im just as guilty as u guys. bottom line like barry said proof is in the puddin. i put down birds with my sx2 this year barry has too and we all know by the pics from the iowa boys they can deffinately put the hurtin on the ducks and geese.


yes sir the proof is in the puddin.......them IOWA GUY'S sure put the smackdown on em PS guy's great job this season

[kingkilla]

barry come on over and well put those benellis to rest in the mud. im not a die hard benelli guy like 2 other guys i know (iowamig8er and killer miller). but i bet if you barried my BPS in the mud i could take it out a year later and it would shoot like it was brand new :D

[huntingbuddy]

that movie is simply amazing :shock: :D . Still makes me want a beneli just dont have the money to buy it right now. Maybe for a graduation gift.

[HRK]

kingkilla
hell yea..... might even let ya shoot my $12000.00 K80 super scroll, but if ya scratch it ya bought it :wink:

[SMOKE]

what the hell is a k80??

[kingkilla]

its a real fancy over under gun i think

[HRK]

its a real fancy over under gun i think


UUUUUUHHHHHHHH YEA!!!! cant find the picture of mine its on disc and we just moved and the gun is in my vault. but it looks some thing like this one .but mines a super scroll

http://www.krieghoff.com/pages/2.1.3/pages/2.1.3.html

[SMOKE]

never heard of them but damn they look nice im sure they are cheap as well

[HRK]

you mean you didnt see it in my posts??????? $12 grand with the kolar tube set, briley chokes and case.

[SMOKE]

you mean you didnt see it in my posts??????? $12 grand with the kolar tube set, briley chokes and case.



damn i could buy a lot of gear with 12 grand :shock:

[HRK]

yea brother thats what my new boat cost to. well alittle more

[kingkilla]

think of all the stuff you could buy with 12 grand. a decoy trailer, a couple good guns ( like brownings and winchesters), a few layout blinds, and a pile of decoys.

[IowaMigr8tor]

Well for 12 grand that thing should be able to give me a BJ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
or at least someone should.

[SMOKE]

tell me he didnt just say that :shock:

[HRK]

think of all the stuff you could buy with 12 grand. a decoy trailer, a couple good guns ( like brownings and winchesters), a few layout blinds, and a pile of decoys.

got that!!!!!!!!!
6 foiles calls
4 o/u shot guns
8 shotguns
6 pistols
2 muzzleloaders
8 dozen bigfoots
4 dozen bigfoot floaters
6 dozen real geese siouettes
2 layout blinds
and a partridge in a pear tree :wink:

[HRK]

tell me he didnt just say that :shock:


UUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHH yep he did :wink: dont think i'll let him shoot it now he might try something funny with it !!!! :roll:

[IowaMigr8tor]

All in good fun of course :lol:

[SMOKE]

damn kids :D

[HRK]

All in good fun of course :lol:


and what do you mean by that?????? not gonna handle my gun for fun :wink:

[IowaMigr8tor]

No the post. :roll:

[HRK]

:wink:

[kingkilla]

Well for 12 grand that thing should be able to give me a BJ
or at least someone should.

get your head out of the gutter. some kids say the darnest things

[HRK]

especially for a EMT/ ( basement saver). if he knows what that means???

[HRK]

iowa
since your a EMT/fire fighter i'll clarify the term (basement saver) if you havent heard it before: sorry we couldnt save your house but we did save the basement!!!!.......hahahahahahahahaha :wink:

[IowaMigr8tor]

Thats nothing, you should hear all the **** around the station that gets said. Its a way to vent stress :wink: or at least thats what they said when I was taking my EMT. But no there are alot more explicit things said round the station, trying to keep it kinda clean you know.

[IowaMigr8tor]

And Al u forget we are the same age? So that would mean you are a kid too. LOL

[HRK]

huntingbuddy
sorry we got off track here,me and the boy's had a little debate going. anything else ya need help with on your gun let me know. pm me if ya want :wink:

[IowaMigr8tor]

Ha, basement saver, more like Alarm Chaser. You have to have fires to save peoples basements. We get our fare share of fires, sometimes they are few and far between and you wonder if your radio and pager are working when it has been days since it has toned out. We have been very fortunate this year and have only lost the battle in one commercial fire and it was a goner from the beginning, you couldnt get enough water to dump on that thing to put it out. But yeah with all the new security systems and fire protection systems most of our call end up being false alarms, kinda frustrating in the middle of the night when you are trying to sleep :wink:.

[huntingbuddy]

hey Iowa I didnt know you are a firefighter. (I am new here just learning) Thats cool, animals I can look at their bodly organs but humans I just cant do. your a better man than I am even though you can only save basements :mrgreen: jk.

[HRK]

geeze that must be nice the new place we moved to is 3 blocks from the fire station and the place we moved from the sub station was 1/4 mile away.also were we moved from and to are both on the highway so its sirens day and night :?

[IowaMigr8tor]

Well thats sucks, in our city night time response we try to use the siren at intersections only that way people don't get woke up.
Umm as far as looking at other peoples innards, I dont have to do it very often, I am primarily Fire. But you just have to put it behind you, Its not your Emergency, you are just the one there to help the person and you are no good if that gets in your way.

[Killer Miller]

by Kingkilla
barry come on over and well put those benellis to rest in the mud. im not a die hard benelli guy like 2 other guys i know (iowamig8er and killer miller). but i bet if you barried my BPS in the mud i could take it out a year later and it would shoot like it was brand new

Al, if I recall, the your browning PUMP GUN jammed up one day when me and derek's dirty Benelli AUTOLOADERS cycled all our shells. Remember that? Because I sure as hell do.

Oh and BTW, when I finally did clean my 4 year old SBE (it hadnt been jamming or cycling slow, I just knew it had to be dirty) I literally dumped the dirt out of the action! :shock: In fact, my dad was pissed off at me because I wasnt taking care of it because I had bought it with my own money and wasn't taking care of it. The way I saw it was how can you fix something that isn't broken? Why clean a dirty Benelli? :lol: Benelli's slogan should be "Ya don't even gotta clean 'em!" :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Killer Miller]

Ohhh and thanks Huntersridge and Smoke on the compliments on our kills this year. We did pretty good. Hopefully kill a few more honks. I figured me, Al, and Derek killed about 200 ducks and around 50 honkers this fall. 8)

[kingkilla]

Benelli's slogan should be "Ya don't even gotta clean 'em!" :lol: :lol: :lol:

that a slogan if ive ever heard one. :wink:

[rushcreekganderlander]

Al, if I recall, the your browning PUMP GUN jammed up one day when me and derek's dirty Benelli AUTOLOADERS cycled all our shells.

Reminds me of the piece of **** Nova I bought my dad for Christmas last year. I have a 14 year old Mossburg that pumps faster than that gun. I've did everything possible to try and get that gun to pump. Absolutely brand new looking and if it were mine I'd trade it for a case of Budwiser. It's almost impossible to get two shots of if you are shooting a double in clays. You have to wait after each shot before pumping or the damn thing jams. I have to agree with Barry any gun can have problems no matter who makes them. I've just never had any problems with my Browning in the field.

[SMOKE]

Ohhh and thanks Huntersridge and Smoke on the compliments on our kills this year.


ill be out next year in the chase for one of them iowa banded birds u guys always seem to come across :twisted:

[IowaMigr8tor]

Steve you just stay in Il. and kill Il. birds you dont want these Iowa birds :wink: .

[SMOKE]

u just dont want me and al to show u and miller up in the gun battle :D

[Killer Miller]

Well Al was shooting Derek's Charles Daly pump a few weeks ago because his POS....I mean BPS wasnt working. So it appears that you are a gunner down right now Steve. :lol: Jk man....but seriously. :lol:

[SMOKE]

lol i got all the back up i need in my avatar :twisted:

[Killer Miller]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[IowaMigr8tor]

Yeah I even set him up with one deal of a Benelli NOVA but he wouldnt take it.

[Killer Miller]

Yeah he's kind of a tard sometimes......most of the time. :lol:

[kingkilla]

come on over steve and we will show those 2 darbys how to shoot :D

[SMOKE]

well if i shoot like i did at the end of this year all we are already handicaped.......

[HRK]

dont worry smoke i'll back ya up... :wink: