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hammer007911
01-04-2007, 12:00 PM
Funny all these experts need study after study (I know they make money on them) to prove global warming.

What have you noticed as it gets warmer with your hunting?

1) No more ruffed grouse with in 60 miles of home now I have to go about 120 miles to see them.

2) Mallards all year round by my house

3) Best late season goose for me was this year usually they are long gone!

Hammer

shootstraight
01-04-2007, 09:02 PM
I am currently doing a research project on how global warming is affecting small mammals at high elevation. Unless you consider $12 an hour a tremendous amount of dough i think you will realize we "experts" arent really making all that much money. As far as the rough grouse, your declining numbers is probably due to edge effects from reduced habitat size and a resulting increase in predation. For the waterfowl, climate change has resulted in more extreme weather cycles. Since we all know waterfowl move when the weather gets really nasty, global warming may actually increase movement. Therefore, the changes in your waterfowl hunting is most likely due to population and weather variation not global warming trends.

kingkilla
01-04-2007, 09:11 PM
the world is basiclly coming to an end. ill leave it at that.

hammer007911
01-04-2007, 09:24 PM
the world is basiclly coming to an end. ill leave it at that.

I agree every day the earth is one day closer to its end as are we :wink:

Hammer

hammer007911
01-04-2007, 09:25 PM
As far as the rough grouse, your declining numbers is probably due to edge effects from reduced habitat size and a resulting increase in predation.

As a researcher where did you get you information to validate the above statement?

I work on some research projects and make 70 bucks an hour at it and I think its way to much but I take it :D

Hammer

HRK
01-04-2007, 09:27 PM
i also agree, live every day like its your last cause it just might be.

mnbenelli
01-04-2007, 09:46 PM
I agree w/ Hammer. Up here in the frozen midwest it was in the 40's today. That is absolutely rediculous! seeing all these ducks and geese around, and not being aloud to hunt them is killing me. It's like watching Hammers avatar and not being able to touch 'em.

Mike

Drake Whistle
01-04-2007, 11:03 PM
yeah i dont know about you guys but the global warming thing is freaky - i agree, live everyday to the fullest

shootstraight
01-05-2007, 12:50 PM
Here are some sources:

Chalfoun et al. 2002 Nest Predators and Fragmentation. Conservation Biology

Collinge 1996 Ecological Consequences of habitat fragmentation. Landscape and Urban Planning

Yahner, RH et al. 2001. Edge-related Nest Predation Associated With the Retention of Residual Trees in Harvested Hardwood Stands. Canadian Field Naturalist.

Whitaker, DM et al. 2006. Factors affecting habitat use by Appalachian Ruffed Grouse. Journal of Wildlife Management.

Hey, I dont mean to sound like a jerk but anytime somebody makes a comment that is slanderous on what you do and love it makes you a little mad. Sorry.

hammer007911
01-05-2007, 01:07 PM
I was aware of the Appalachian Ruffed grouse study but not any in Minnesota that related to my hunting areas. That is what I would like to see someone with grouse data from when I was a kid to know. The difference to me is huge. There are 400 Acre woods that have no development in them and have been through the cycle of cutting down parts of the woods so it has stayed mixed. We could always shot grouse out of there as a kid I even shot some with BB gun out of there. I have not heard a grouse drumming there in over 10 years.

Something is changed man :wink:

Sorry if I pissed you off, one of my major faults :oops:

Hammer