Another Ford Thread

[h20fowler]

2008 F-150 Hybrid 60mpg city

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http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06...lichybrid.html

impressive science. I hope it pans out at a price the average consumer can afford. I also hope the performance isn't dropped to far.

[Killer Miller]

The link isn't working.

[The Duck Squad]

hows that gonna effect power and performance tho? i dont buy into this ethanol scam, theres to many cons vs. pros.

[takem]

how many hours are the batteries good for before a recharge?

[The Duck Squad]

http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06/hydraulichybrid.html

this one should work. looks like its batteries my bad. :oops:

[BradG]

thats pretty cool

[h20fowler]

I ran ethanol in my truck for one tank. I dropped 3.5 MPG while using it. Needless to say it would need to be a lot cheaper before I made the switch.

[WGM-57]

Only thing wrong with it is the blue oval :)

[huntforfoodeer]

Only thing wrong with it is the blue oval :)
your right on that

[h20fowler]

Only thing wrong with it is the blue oval :)

Depends on the truck... I've seen chrome ovals on all colors of fords. It looks best on Black though.

[ThePreacher]

its not the mpg that ethanol provides, its the fact that its a renewable resource........


i started to burn ethanol in my nissan race truck.(read as not really a race truck but more that i think it is....) and it actually boosted my mpg...

[h20fowler]

Ethanol improved your mileage??

Must have been a corn - rice blend ?? :lol:

[ThePreacher]

it did...... not by much maybe a couple mpg......

[Max4Gooser]

Not to be Mr. Negative, but I believe it is the latest issue of DU magazine that has an article about how ethanol production and renewable fuels will be detrimental to our duck population.

[ThePreacher]

isnt that article about the suffering of duck populations through the use of switchgrass for ethanol???

[h20fowler]

I read that as well. But I thought it was due to the elimination of grasses for nesting.

But the general population could care less. After all, we are a group of people that will cut down a bunch of trees for our houses, then name the street or subdivision after them... :roll:

[Max4Gooser]

I admit I didn't finish the article, but I thought the switch grass was just one of the iongrdients they plan to use for producing ethanol. Either way it would seem that ethanol production might not be the best thing for our ducks.

[h20fowler]

I'll admit. I skimmed the entire article while taking a duke... It seamed like the consensus was that farmers are going to be taking their land out of CRP early, or would not re-enroll as it was not cost effective to do so. Switch grass, Corn, and some others would return more profit. Therefor, the prairie grass in the nesting grounds would be eliminated, thus hurting the breeding population.

But like I said, that was skimming the article and that was the info that I retained out of it.

[ThePreacher]

i wouldnt think that using corn to produce ethanol is going to be nearly as detrimental as grass... unless they remove grassland to start producing corn

[h20fowler]

unless they remove grassland to start producing corn

That's where the problem starts, and exactly what DU was projecting. As more ethanol plants open and E85 becomes popular it will be more profitable to have corn then grass. Thus farmers will start making the change.

One of the benefits to Switchgrass as I recall was that it would be harvested before nesting season and would resemble wheat stubble. Still offering some nesting possibilities. I don't recall what happens with the after product however (hash or whatever it's called.)

[huntinPIKE04]

as far as the corn and switchgrass thing goes....E85 is just the start to alternate fuels and a small stepping stone to alternate energy it is not a long term solution from oil and fossil fuel dependence.....

corn is far to inefficient to ever become a solution....it is just tempoary and being pushed mainly by farmers who grow corn.....more energy goes into creating E85 than the energy that comes out of it

switchgrass is more efficient than corn yet still not good enough....it has more potential to create higher yields than corn because it did not recieve the attention of corn during the green revolution of the past few decades

miscanthus has the highest natural yields even more than switch grass.....it also has more potential than switchgrass.....the only thing that switchgrass has going for it is that it is natural to the united states and miscanthus is not.....however it only grows where you plant it and is not detrimental to the environment like zebra mussels....currently whole powerplants in europe are being powered only by miscanthus

sorry for the rant


ryan

[huntingbuddy]

what we need to look at is biodiesel. if a little honda can get say 34 mpg with gas think of how much more it could get with diesel. these are quotes from powerstrokes website
Diesel provides superior power and performance to most gasoline engines – an important benefit for American drivers and commercial operators. They are also much more fuel-efficient than gasoline-powered vehicles, typically getting 20-40 percent better miles-per-gallon. here is a website to visit about biodiesel technology http://www.greendieseltechnology.com/[/quote]

[huntinPIKE04]

my brother gets 50 plus mpg with his diesel jetta.......90 hp turbo......


ryan

[huntingbuddy]

see told ya and I bet he goes 80 on the freeway too

[Honkytonk09]

ford circled the problem 4 u

[huntinPIKE04]

50 plus mpg 0-85 mph too

ryan