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H-Unit
06-27-2007, 03:55 PM
sup' deleted threads.
I think this might cover muddy dog's advertisement fee.
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r223/spinitfast/HPIM1562.jpg
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 04:14 PM
The situation (that you are not any part of) was resolved. No need to leave that thread up as it was worthless.
Sportsmans, Cabelas and Macks buy an awfull lot of calls each year too and I dont remember seeing any of their ads on here....
Personally I really like a Forum free of Spamming and advertising.
H-Unit
06-27-2007, 05:10 PM
Then constitute a rule for all users, not just the ones your pissed off at. Not really your shining moment.
ThePreacher
06-27-2007, 05:11 PM
Then constitute a rule for all users, not just the ones your pissed off at. Not really your shining moment.
i agree....
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 05:23 PM
Please, guide me to some threads where (other) manufacturers have spammed their product and I will.
Heres my problem, I have several compainies who have paid more than double what I asked from MDL that run banners on the front page and none of them spam the Forum even though they can. I cant think of (PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong in the intrest of fairness) one other company who has been allowed to continually post thread after thread of their product.
I have not been unfair, I like Jason and Justin, is it fair to the others who have paid to sponsor and advertise on this site that MDL can for free?
Am I really being unjust? Justin has been allowed without interuption to post a thread everythime he braided a new lanyard. I never said a word.
ThePreacher
06-27-2007, 05:26 PM
kelly,
maybe there should be a rotating banner on the top of the forum page... i dont remember the last time i visited the home page.... so i dont know if there are guys that pay for this banner ad...
H-Unit
06-27-2007, 05:34 PM
Where are the banners????
Spamming, and just saying prostaff are two things. You and I both know that.
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 06:13 PM
The banners other sponsors have paid for are on the main page. I offered those spots to MDL as well.
The situation is taken care of between the parties involved. We are all big boys and have moved on.
I know the difference between spamming and a signature. I also know that Justin isnt Pro-Staff.
Brian Rennecker
06-27-2007, 06:19 PM
Is it goose season yet, I guess I missed some while out on vacation.
H-Unit
06-27-2007, 06:36 PM
Both parties are not in agreement, one just got tired of dealing with the other.
Twist this all you like, but taxating whatever zany sigs these kids have has NOTHING to do with advertisement. grow up man.
bowserbags
06-27-2007, 06:38 PM
It was a good time when peoples signatures were there freaking birth names. This is fast becoming a sport of not what know but who your connected with. :twisted:
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 06:58 PM
Both parties are not in agreement, one just got tired of dealing with the other.
Twist this all you like, but taxating whatever zany sigs these kids have has NOTHING to do with advertisement. grow up man.
So have you been hired as a mediator between us or are you just sticking your nose where it doesnt belong?
Maybe I should tax you for attacking members of the forum for no reason at all. If I charged you a nickle for everytime you were an asshole to one of the members here I would be rich.
Brian Rennecker
06-27-2007, 07:01 PM
Ok due to the events that have un folded all sigs. that contain a non paying sponsorship must be removed by Friday 5 pm cst. or they will be removed for you.
If your sig contains a personal website it is OK. If your site is a hunting site that does not sell a product it is OK. If all you sell is a t-shirt or a sticker for your website it is OK. If you have a link to a Sponsor of Foiles Migrators it is OK.
List of sponsors: http://foilesstraitmeat.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=42
This may make some of you a little unhappy but this is the fairest way to handle the current situation.
If you have any questions feel free to p.m., email or contact me at the shop.
H-Unit
06-27-2007, 07:13 PM
my nose where it shouldnt be? or the only one to have balls to call you out on your lame ****? pick which body part you like.
Brian it sucks that has to be done, Im sorry some cant play fair.
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 07:25 PM
I'm goin with nose where it shouldnt be. :D
H-Unit
06-27-2007, 07:27 PM
If you said balls, I would worry.
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 07:29 PM
:shock:
Where you put them is up to you...long as they aint in my zip code.
H-Unit
06-27-2007, 07:30 PM
zip code, chin.
tomato, tomayto.
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 07:31 PM
So the meds arent stopping the dreams?
H-Unit
06-27-2007, 07:33 PM
Or thread hi-jacking.
JHALE
06-27-2007, 07:34 PM
[quote="H-Unit"]my nose where it shouldnt be? or the only one to have balls to call you out on your lame ****? pick which body part you like.
Takes alot of balls to argue with someone on a computer
DropEmInDE
06-27-2007, 07:36 PM
I also know that Justin isnt Pro-Staff.
whats that supposed to mean.......:?: :?: :?: :?:
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 07:40 PM
It means your a little higher up the food chain than that...arent you? Wasnt a dig bro, it was a compliment.
FOSTER
06-27-2007, 07:42 PM
Ok due to the events that have un folded all sigs. that contain a non paying sponsorship must be removed by Friday 5 pm cst. or they will be removed for you.
If your sig contains a personal website it is OK. If your site is a hunting site that does not sell a product it is OK. If all you sell is a t-shirt or a sticker for your website it is OK. If you have a link to a Sponsor of Foiles Migrators it is OK.
List of sponsors: http://foilesstraitmeat.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=42
This may make some of you a little unhappy but this is the fairest way to handle the current situation.
If you have any questions feel free to p.m., email or contact me at the shop.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS HONEST AND TELLS EVERYONE WHO THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH IN A SIG. DOES'NT MEAN THEY ARE SPAMING A PRODUCT.I DONT COME TO THIS FORUM FOR THE CALLS..................
I LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE AND ITS FUN TO B.S. ABOUT HUNTING OR JUST GIVE EACHOTHER A GOOD RIBBING. KIND OF STUPID TO PUNISH EVERYONE FOR THIS,EVEN IF YOUR SIG. DOEST SAY FOILES PRO-STAFF YOU SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO PROUDLY DISPLAY IT.................
SOUND LIKE YOUR PUNISHING EVERYONE FOR A COUPLE BAD APPLES.
PS. ONE OF THE SITE ADMIN. GUYS TOLD ME AS LONG AS THERE IS NO LINK YOU CAN PUT WHAT EVER YOU WANT~ IN YOUR SIG.,IT WAS IN A PM SO I WILL LEAVE IT TO HIM TO BRING IT UP IN THE OPEN FORUM.
DropEmInDE
06-27-2007, 07:44 PM
Was Just Curious........i was under the impression that the PRO in prostaff, means promotional staff, not professional...and no one promotes my company more than i do...
but i get what your sayin.....told you i was a little slow... :wink:
H-Unit
06-27-2007, 07:45 PM
[quote=H-Unit]my nose where it shouldnt be? or the only one to have balls to call you out on your lame ****? pick which body part you like.
Takes alot of balls to argue with someone on a computer
Or to quote properly.
I love when people bring your manhood into question when your on a forum. I cant jump through this computer. Trust me. I would, if I could, jump through all of our AARP pop up ads and smack the vowels out of your name. But just lurking for over a year like you have is definately the most proactive thing.
H-Unit
06-27-2007, 07:48 PM
Ok due to the events that have un folded all sigs. that contain a non paying sponsorship must be removed by Friday 5 pm cst. or they will be removed for you.
If your sig contains a personal website it is OK. If your site is a hunting site that does not sell a product it is OK. If all you sell is a t-shirt or a sticker for your website it is OK. If you have a link to a Sponsor of Foiles Migrators it is OK.
List of sponsors: http://foilesstraitmeat.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=42
This may make some of you a little unhappy but this is the fairest way to handle the current situation.
If you have any questions feel free to p.m., email or contact me at the shop.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS HONEST AND TELLS EVERYONE WHO THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH IN A SIG. DOES'NT MEAN THEY ARE SPAMING A PRODUCT.I DONT COME TO THIS FORUM FOR THE CALLS..................
I LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE AND ITS FUN TO B.S. ABOUT HUNTING OR JUST GIVE EACHOTHER A GOOD RIBBING. KIND OF STUPID TO PUNISH EVERYONE FOR THIS,EVEN IF YOUR SIG. DOEST SAY FOILES PRO-STAFF YOU SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO PROUDLY DISPLAY IT.................
SOUND LIKE YOUR PUNISHING EVERYONE FOR A COUPLE BAD APPLES.
PS. ONE OF THE SITE ADMIN. GUYS TOLD ME AS LONG AS THERE IS NO LINK YOU CAN PUT WHAT EVER YOU WANT~ IN YOUR SIG.,IT WAS IN A PM SO I WILL LEAVE IT TO HIM TO BRING IT UP IN THE OPEN FORUM.
preach.
DropEmInDE
06-27-2007, 07:49 PM
If you have a link to a Sponsor of Foiles Migrators it is OK.
so does this mean if i put a link for Foiles in our website it would be ok ? just curious....i would be more than happy to advertise for FMI free of charge.... :!: :!: :?: :?:
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 07:54 PM
It's the only way to play fair I guess.
Hell man theres some forums you cant even put Pro-Staff if they are a sponsor.
Justin, Jason and the MDL boys....this isnt just about you. You just happened to be a match when I was drinkin kerosene. It's been coming down the line for a while.
I guess if you really want to break it down we can....
This is our site we pay for it, we spend alot of time keeping it running.
We sell lanyards - you sell lanyards. Should we pay for a competitors place to advertise?
We have a Club and guide - should we pay for a place for other guide services to advertise for free?
Kinda like going to Ford and asking if they will help you pay for advertising your Chevy dealership.
FA helps pay our bills, should we allow their competition to advertise here for free?
It's just common sense really.
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 07:57 PM
If you have a link to a Sponsor of Foiles Migrators it is OK.
so does this mean if i put a link for Foiles in our website it would be ok ? just curious....i would be more than happy to advertise for FMI free of charge.... :!: :!: :?: :?:
No Justin, a link is not a Sponsor.
Seriously guys your killin me. You guys are like a bunch of wierd little best friends that I've never met. I hate to tell you no to anything and I've been cool about this stuff. Sometimes though I have to be the bad guy...dont make me feel any worse about it than I already do.
RidgeNelson
06-27-2007, 08:01 PM
You guys are like a bunch of wierd little best friends that I've never met. I hate to tell you no to anything
:lol: Hahahaha :lol:
DropEmInDE
06-27-2007, 08:05 PM
I understand that....i wasnt trying to be sarcastic, i was just trying to show support, it more or less had nothing to do with this issue...but its something we wanted to do anyways...considering 99.9 percent of our staff if 100% Foiles..
i just wanted to know if we would cross any lines by adding a link to FMI in our website.......no sponsorship fees, basically free promotion, just as a show of good faith that there is no hard feelings..( on another note our links page says LINKS, not SPONSORS )
We sell lanyards - you sell lanyards. Should we pay for a competitors place to advertise?
THATS not my fault dammit, we want to sponsor Foiles...Jeff just beat us to the punch to do it in house...!!!
im still waiting on Jason for an Answer......i will let you know as soon as i know..
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 08:10 PM
I know you werent being sarcastic, my head is spinning from all this and I'm probably not coming across quite the way I should.
Putting a link to Foiles will help your site get higher on the Google searches. Putting links to the biggest sites in the hunting industry will help. Part of the Google algorithm picks links and cross links based on their score and scores you accordingly. In English: Put up as many links to big sites that you can, trade links with as many little sites as you can. It will help your search engine placing.
DropEmInDE
06-27-2007, 08:12 PM
I know you werent being sarcastic, my head is spinning from all this and I'm probably not coming across quite the way I should.
They Make Pills for that you know !!! :shock:
jhav2448
06-27-2007, 08:37 PM
I have a crazy idea, why couldn't foiles just sell muddydog lanyards in their website store and everyone would hopefully be happy. Come on fellas foiles teamed up with muddydog would be pretty cool.
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 08:41 PM
Thats somwthing they would have to talk to Jeff about.
Drake691
06-27-2007, 08:49 PM
I really don't see why people are making this such a big deal. I now love to use foiles calls and I pay for them, Which a small amout of that money goes into keeping this website running. Correct???? so really we should be able to put what we want as signatures. So if no1 liked or baught Foiles calls there would be no website.....this is just my option
migrator00
06-27-2007, 08:54 PM
I really don't see why people are making this such a big deal. I now love to use foiles calls and I pay for them, Which a small amout of that money goes into keeping this website running. Correct???? so really we should be able to put what we want as signatures. So if no1 liked or baught Foiles calls there would be no website.....this is just my option
way to see the point only exactly the opposite of what I just said.
I was drinkin kerosene.
:shock: isnt lacquer thinner better than kerosene ? just have to sniff it and not drink it! plus it doesn't do this to you........
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q163/akchunter/oldagjedi-exlax.jpg
DropEmInDE
06-27-2007, 08:57 PM
Thats something they would have to talk to Jeff about.
been trying to, Jeff is a Hard person to get ahold of...!!
Drake691
06-27-2007, 09:00 PM
cant we kick mr.negitivity off this forum? all in favor, say I
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 09:22 PM
LOL...start a poll.
Killer Miller
06-27-2007, 10:14 PM
I don't know what went on and don't really need/care to. But I do have a question (somewhat off-topic).....is it alright for me to post "Foiles Migrators" in my signature on other forums? I have it in my signature on several other forums (flocknockers took it off) and several people have asked if I am on their staff and of course I have told them I am not, just one of many strong believers in their calls the company as a whole. Obviously, FMI can't actually stop me from doing this, but I just wanted some opinions.
Obviously, FMI can't actually stop me from doing this.
Isn't this a little brash on your part to think that FMI couldn't stop you from doing this?. It would be very easy for them to stop you.
GOOSEHANSON
06-27-2007, 10:38 PM
Tyler I know on Flocknockers and the Fuge....I can't even put a signiture with Foiles on it...they have rules that state that if you aren't paying the sposorship bills then you can't put the staff status in your signiture....I think that makes sense...weeds out guys who just push a favorite product...and have no real affiliation besides brand loyalty....your better off pimpin' Jeffs calls by posting lots of dead geese with your Foiles calls dangling over them....that says it all...joe
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 10:41 PM
God damn...is everyone in a bad mood?
No we dont care if you put it in your sig, the forum owners may. Could we stop you? Hell i dont know if we really could legally, dont know why it would ever come to that anyway. It would be an amazing waste of time and money to pursue something like that in the court system. Now if you got it tatooed on your ass or something I guarantee we would have you in court...no way the logo should be defaced like that. :lol:
We did take action against a couple of people and MySpace not long ago. Someone had a fake Jeff Foiles account and since he has the name as a TM we got it back. They were being complete pricks and really saying some ugly things about other callmakers. Now I have a Jeff Foiles MySpace account. Dont tell him....
DropEmInDE
06-27-2007, 10:43 PM
your better off pimpin' Jeffs calls by posting lots of dead geese with your Foiles calls dangling over them....that says it all...joe
AMEN...!
we sponsor the fuge, and i have actually caught some **** from members of the forum about my MDL tag in my sig, and im look WE ARE SPONSORS...and WE FLOAT the bill.....flocknockers is a whole nother story but its understandable why they do it...they dont want people to Flaunt their staff status on their forum....like kelly said their forum their rules.....
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 10:44 PM
Holy sh!t you guys think I'm bad? Cliff banned me long ago over to Flocknockers.
DropEmInDE
06-27-2007, 10:47 PM
yeah those guys are WAY TO ANAL about their Junk Forum....yeah theres a lot of people on there, but theres also a lot of crybabies...and the topics....well lets not go there....the Fuge....good people, for the most part, crap load of members, but a lot A LOT of crybabies. !
Killer Miller
06-27-2007, 10:53 PM
Obviously, FMI can't actually stop me from doing this.
Isn't this a little brash on your part to think that FMI couldn't stop you from doing this?. It would be very easy for them to stop you.
Well, not like I really care if they could or couldn't because I'll simply take it out of my sig. on other forums if FMI doesn't think it's right for me to do so, but how can they stop me? This is their forum, the other ones I am on are not theirs. Just a question...I don't want a pissing match.....cause like I said, I'd simply take it off my sig. before they had to so it wouldn't be a problem either way.
weeds out guys who just push a favorite product...and have no real affiliation besides brand loyalty....your better off pimpin' Jeffs calls by posting lots of dead geese with your Foiles calls dangling over them....that says it all...joe
Joe, I guess I would be one of those guys who pushs their favorite products and has no real affiliaton besides loyalty....I dunno if that is good or bad. :?
But about the Foiles calls laying on the victims, would these work? :D
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/dscn0640.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0673.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/n207301133_30563060_4913.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0722.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0747.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0783.jpg
Calls dangling on right side of pic
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0808.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/dscn0734.jpg
GOOSEHANSON
06-27-2007, 11:08 PM
weeds out guys who just push a favorite product...and have no real affiliation besides brand loyalty....your better off pimpin' Jeffs calls by posting lots of dead geese with your Foiles calls dangling over them....that says it all...joe
Joe, I guess I would be one of those guys who pushs their favorite products and has no real affiliaton besides loyalty....I dunno if that is good or bad. :?
Tyler NO thats not a bad thing at all...kinda leaves out the BS and keeps the honesty in the sport...I like all the companies that I am affiliated with, if I didn't I wouldn't use them...I know your the same...I was just showing that guys can have a personal agenda in there posts when they feel soo strongly about X brand of product and drag the rest of the other sponsors down...most guys that have an affiliation with a huntin' product would never post a negative comment about a competitors product...just make ther company look bad....I have seen you posts on other forums and they are positive without dragging alot of crap into them...joe
But about the Foiles calls laying on the victims, would these work? :D
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/dscn0640.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0673.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/n207301133_30563060_4913.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0722.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0747.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0783.jpg
Calls dangling on right side of pic
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/DSCN0808.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/KillerMiller19_2006/dscn0734.jpg[/quote] :!:
Tyler,
No pissin match........its just that FMI and "strait meat" is trademarked and owned by Jeff. if now in saying "if' there was ever an issue, something could again "could" be done.I'm not sayin that this would happen over something so small but theres always a chance, but like Kelly said unlikely.
fair enough ?
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 11:14 PM
Best thread ever.
Beast thread ever.
Beast ??????????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Kelly Rees
06-27-2007, 11:19 PM
Shuddup. What is this a frakin spelling Bee? :wink:
Leo Porcello
06-27-2007, 11:22 PM
:lol: You guys have me rolling. I am not sure why what Kelly is saying does not sink in. I mean how many times and how many different ways does he have to explain it? Seems pretty simple to me!
kingkilla
06-27-2007, 11:27 PM
:lol: You guys have me rolling. I am not sure why what Kelley is saying does not sink in. I mean how many times and how many different ways does he have to explain it? Seems pretty simple to me!
agreed
rushcreekganderlander
06-28-2007, 04:36 AM
Damn look at all the fun I miss by working night shift. :roll: You guys sound like you need to get out the layouts, some dekes, a call, and kill some crows or something.
Gooseblitz
06-28-2007, 07:40 AM
I have to agree here it's Foiles Forum...Kelly can make the rules....that isn't too hard for me to figure out...you like it great...you don't then you don't have to participate.
I use all of the forums and each has their own intricacies....I am not a fan of the fuge.....been a member there the longest and the amount of bashing, ass kissing and mindless posts of what is your favorite call drive me insane, I love waterfowler.com it is a pay site and keeps out there trouble, I love it here becuase it is a bunch of like minded guys that know their stuff and the best source of lowdown on FMI. I do like Flocknockers...once you accept the fact that Cliff takes no **** that forum has one of the most knowlegable member bases online ...I had my FMI Field staff in my sig for a while there and didn't know I was breaking the rules after a while a moderator sent me a polite PM and I removed it.
bowserbags
06-28-2007, 08:53 AM
Is it friday 5 o'clock yet. Your signature glass slipers are going to melt. calp.clap.clap
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 09:24 AM
I knew I was missing something good when this thing started pinging last night....
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z182/blackhawk00001/meter5bs.gif
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 09:29 AM
It's the only way to play fair I guess.
I guess if you really want to break it down we can....
This is our site we pay for it, we spend a lot of time keeping it running.
We sell lanyards - you sell lanyards. Should we pay for a competitors place to advertise?
We have a Club and guide - should we pay for a place for other guide services to advertise for free?
Kinda like going to Ford and asking if they will help you pay for advertising your Chevy dealership.
FA helps pay our bills, should we allow their competition to advertise here for free?
It's just common sense really.
I agree Kelly. This has been a long time in the making. I am just happy that it is finally going to be pushed across to everyone, and not just those that pissed someone off. I assume that this will be enforced on employees of FMI as well. Otherwise, nothing has changed.
Reading this - I guess the business card thread will need to be edited as well. After all, you have a club - and a guide.... Talk about sh!t rolling downhill.....
bck1006
06-28-2007, 11:37 AM
It's the only way to play fair I guess.
I guess if you really want to break it down we can....
This is our site we pay for it, we spend a lot of time keeping it running.
We sell lanyards - you sell lanyards. Should we pay for a competitors place to advertise?
We have a Club and guide - should we pay for a place for other guide services to advertise for free?
Kinda like going to Ford and asking if they will help you pay for advertising your Chevy dealership.
FA helps pay our bills, should we allow their competition to advertise here for free?
It's just common sense really.
I agree Kelly. This has been a long time in the making. I am just happy that it is finally going to be pushed across to everyone, and not just those that pissed someone off. I assume that this will be enforced on employees of FMI as well. Otherwise, nothing has changed.
Reading this - I guess the business card thread will need to be edited as well. After all, you have a club - and a guide.... Talk about sh!t rolling downhill.....
Why would the business card thread need to be removed? I got the okay from Sean to use the Foiles logos for cards and I think he told Goosehanson that it was okay to put his guide service on the cards as well. Besides I made them up for FOILES STAFF only to use them.Thanks
RidgeNelson
06-28-2007, 11:44 AM
It's the only way to play fair I guess.
I guess if you really want to break it down we can....
This is our site we pay for it, we spend a lot of time keeping it running.
We sell lanyards - you sell lanyards. Should we pay for a competitors place to advertise?
We have a Club and guide - should we pay for a place for other guide services to advertise for free?
Kinda like going to Ford and asking if they will help you pay for advertising your Chevy dealership.
FA helps pay our bills, should we allow their competition to advertise here for free?
It's just common sense really.
I agree Kelly. This has been a long time in the making. I am just happy that it is finally going to be pushed across to everyone, and not just those that pissed someone off. I assume that this will be enforced on employees of FMI as well. Otherwise, nothing has changed.
Reading this - I guess the business card thread will need to be edited as well. After all, you have a club - and a guide.... Talk about sh!t rolling downhill.....
Why would the business card thread need to be removed? I got the okay from Sean to use the Foiles logos for cards and I think he told Goosehanson that it was okay to put his guide service on the cards as well. Besides I made them up for FOILES STAFF only to use them.Thanks
What business card thread?
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 11:48 AM
I never said the thread needed to be removed.
And I see no issues with using the foiles logo on cards for foiles staff. In fact I thought what was made was very clean and looked nice....
And here comes by butface... :)
but advertising is advertising. And if FMI has a club, and a guide, then why would FMI do free advertising on their business cards for another club or guide service without making an arrangement for fee's, sponsorships, or whatever you want to call it.
Brian Rennecker
06-28-2007, 11:50 AM
I assume that this will be enforced on employees of FMI as well. Otherwise, nothing has changed.
So what exactly do you mean by this please give me a few examples
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 11:52 AM
Brian, it's hard for me to give examples as I don't know what arrangements have been made between FMI and other companies. But one can look at the sponsor page you listed earlier, and then find links to other companies that are not on that page within the signatures of FMI pro-staff, which I referred to as employees. Sorry if there was a confusion.
mnbenelli
06-28-2007, 11:55 AM
YOU GUYS ARE GIVING ME A HEADACHE!!!!!!!
Who cares anymore???? Just pay this guy and that guy and spend, spend, spend!!!!
I vote we try to get back to normal around here!!!
Peace and Hair Grease!!!!
Brian Rennecker
06-28-2007, 11:58 AM
Thanks
DropEmInDE
06-28-2007, 12:03 PM
I think someone said it before.....but i think its just the offseason thats got people on Edge,
We are a group of people that enjoys killing things, and we havent gotten to do it in a while, some of us are a little more stressed than others :D
This whole Thread has traveled so far off topic its not even funny any more, the whole situation was between me and kelly, and we have settled our differences, and this whole deal has just grown to Forum Bashing, Advertiseing and Sponsorship Rules, and Questions about this and that, that really have nothing to due with a serious issue....
all i have to say is what started this whole deal is over, history, water under the bridge, so why keep bringing it up, its over.....
like mike said, lets just go back to talking about calls, women, and killing things, the stuff we know best, and let the Buisness BS be handled by those involved...
i sencond the vote for going back to the way it was !
Brian Rennecker
06-28-2007, 12:07 PM
Justin check your pms
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 12:13 PM
I don't have the desire nor time to be the signature police. From this thread alone....
Goose - Sorry to point this out. It's just the first one that I saw.
And like I stated before. I do not know your business arrangements (and I read the entire business card thread, I know there was a sponsorship or something made)... Personally I don't see a difference between Muddy dog in a signature and Snake river...
-GOOSEHANSON-
FOILES MIGRATORS PRO-STAFF
DROPZONE DECOY AERO OUTDOOR PROSTAFF
SNAKE RIVER LANYARDS PROSTAFF
"PRO-GUIDE BURBANK GUIDE SERVICE "
"GUIDIN' HUNTERS IN THE COLUMBIA BASIN
SINCE 2000"
I am honestly not trying to stir the fire. But managing signatures is not my idea of a fun time. especially determining what links and what web sites fall into your rules. One look at Westernwingshooter.com (no offense Kelly) shows that they are selling more then stickers and shirts.
DropEmInDE
06-28-2007, 12:13 PM
Just Did and i dont have any New Ones ?? should I ?
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 12:18 PM
like mike said, lets just go back to talking about calls, women, and killing things, the stuff we know best, and let the Buisness BS be handled by those involved...
Couldn't agree more. I was just stating that if one is going to enforce a policy, then it needs to be a uniform policy that blankets everyone. Not just a select few.
Honestly, I don't normally read signatures.
Kelly Rees
06-28-2007, 12:58 PM
I havent been on my site for a while I guess, what am I selling over there? Curious cuz I havent seen any money. The only thing I've ever sold off the site was our videos but Foiles does all that for us now. Something I'm missing?
Fill a Brother in would ya!
GOOSEHANSON
06-28-2007, 01:00 PM
H20...I have spoke to Brian before you had posted this...from my understanding the objection is related to links to websites and not pro-staff accomplishments....I would be more then happy to remove the Snake River Lanyard prostaff in my signiture if I was asked to by a moderator or employer of FMI...but I don't think I was asked to...on the guide deal...Sean has stated that Burbank was in the works of sponsoring the Foiles forum...I was always told that unless you have a dog in the fight then just stand back and watch the show....and it has been a pretty crazy show....Brian R. good talking to you....joe
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 01:10 PM
I havent been on my site for a while I guess, what am I selling over there? Curious cuz I havent seen any money. The only thing I've ever sold off the site was our videos but Foiles does all that for us now. Something I'm missing?
Fill a Brother in would ya!
I guess these services are free. Maybe I should have contacted WWS first. :oops:
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/j_anschutz/wws.jpg
Kelly Rees
06-28-2007, 01:17 PM
Not free, just not offered anymore. Like I said I havent updated the site for a while. If you want to delete that out of my signature please...feel free.
Good hell dude your killin me. Do you bitch at a car dealership because their salesmen get to demo cars for free and you have to buy one? Do you complain when you dont get employee discounts at a restraunt that you dont work at? Do you think the janitor at the basketball arena should have to buy a ticket if he see's the game while he's taking out the trash? I run the website man, I get some perks.
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 01:39 PM
Not free, just not offered anymore. Like I said I havent updated the site for a while. If you want to delete that out of my signature please...feel free.
So dated, unmaintained, incorrect material would be covered in what clause of the "non-sponsored websites in signatures rule" ??
I'm not bitching, I could care less. I like Foiles Calls, I like this Forum, But am tired of the "you can't put that there cause you haven't paid me" BS. So if a policy is going to be written and enforced. Then write it correctly, and enforce it properly.
So, by reading this thread I gather that I can not have
I'm an a$$hole.com listed in my sig.... But
I'm an a$$hole.com - PROSTAFF is acceptable. As that would be an accomplishment, not a direct link to a company?!?
Surely you can see where it is going to be confusing Kelly. It would be different if this was the first time this came up in the past 6 months.
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 01:54 PM
Good hell dude your killin me. Do you bitch at a car dealership because their salesmen get to demo cars for free and you have to buy one? Do you complain when you dont get employee discounts at a restraunt that you dont work at? Do you think the janitor at the basketball arena should have to buy a ticket if he see's the game while he's taking out the trash? I run the website man, I get some perks.
Wow, You stretched on those examples. No even worth this comment as you know they are worthless examples.
This is the policy as I saw it....
Ok due to the events that have un folded all sigs. that contain a non paying sponsorship must be removed by Friday 5 pm cst. or they will be removed for you.
If your sig contains a personal website it is OK. If your site is a hunting site that does not sell a product it is OK. If all you sell is a t-shirt or a sticker for your website it is OK. If you have a link to a Sponsor of Foiles Migrators it is OK.
List of sponsors: http://foilesstraitmeat.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=42
This may make some of you a little unhappy but this is the fairest way to handle the current situation.
If you have any questions feel free to p.m., email or contact me at the shop.
It is a knee jerk reaction to a crappy deal that has gotten blown way out of proportion. My only dog in the fight is that I like this site, I like foiles calls, but am tired of all the bickering and BS that is coming out on here. If you want to establish a forum rule, or policy, Great. But at least spend the time to do it right, and enforce it properly. flying by the seat of your pants is never a good strategy.
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 01:57 PM
So anyway.... I'm done with this conversation. It never effected me, nor concerned me.
sneakyreaper
06-28-2007, 02:36 PM
nose :!:
h20fowler
06-28-2007, 02:36 PM
I was just working up a reply GooseBlitz... where did it go?
Kelly Rees
06-28-2007, 03:32 PM
It is a knee jerk reaction to a crappy deal that has gotten blown way out of proportion.
And you arent helping.
Kelly Rees
06-28-2007, 03:35 PM
Good hell dude your killin me. Do you bitch at a car dealership because their salesmen get to demo cars for free and you have to buy one? Do you complain when you dont get employee discounts at a restraunt that you dont work at? Do you think the janitor at the basketball arena should have to buy a ticket if he see's the game while he's taking out the trash? I run the website man, I get some perks.
Wow, You stretched on those examples. No even worth this comment as you know they are worthless examples.
.
Are they bad examples? It's simple, sometimes employee's get perks the general public doesnt. People who work in theaters get to watch movies for free, people who sell 4-wheelers get better pricing when they buy one, people who work at Cabelas dont pay retail...I'm sure you get some perks in your life that I dont, should I start a thread to cry about it?
spaightlabs
06-28-2007, 03:39 PM
So anyway.... I'm done with this conversation. It never effected me, nor concerned me.
then why were you working up a response 2 posts further down??
Just let it die...
Hasn't this pot been stirred enough ? Seriously this is way out of hand! please stop or someone delete this damn thread.
h20fowler
06-29-2007, 05:47 PM
DEAD
H-Unit
06-29-2007, 07:42 PM
DEADER.
mnbenelli
06-29-2007, 08:42 PM
More deadest!
DropEmInDE
06-29-2007, 09:20 PM
SoOOOooOoOOOooOO DeAD
mlgorecki
06-29-2007, 11:28 PM
Ya think Brittany Spears's t$ts are real?
Kelly Rees
06-29-2007, 11:36 PM
They seemed real.
H-Unit
06-30-2007, 07:07 AM
Did you really delete another reply? what the hell?
GET EM!!
06-30-2007, 08:23 AM
19-20-21
DAMN!!! :evil:
i'm doin it wrong again and on the wrong thread!!!
:shock:
H-Unit
06-30-2007, 09:47 AM
nevermind.
Kelly Rees
06-30-2007, 02:30 PM
I didnt delete anything....????? :?: :roll:
smoking gun
07-01-2007, 08:44 PM
Is it possible to just delete this whole topic? Its getting really old.
h20fowler
07-01-2007, 10:13 PM
Then why bring it back up?
mlgorecki
07-01-2007, 11:41 PM
What's better, the Extrema or the SBE?
Duck Hunter Paul
07-02-2007, 03:01 PM
Even Better:
Ford, Chevy or Dodge?
DropEmInDE
07-02-2007, 04:57 PM
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rushcreekganderlander
07-14-2007, 04:13 PM
Not to bring up a dead horse but if you think that these rules are ridiculous you should see the rules on the Ohio Waterfowler forum. I thought it would be a forum for Ohio waterfowlers to talk on but I was wrong. It is only for avery and zink users to talk on. avery, zink calls, and ghg are their main sponsors. If you put that you are pro staff for a different company in your signature or use a different company logo in your avatar they will fine you $1000. :shock: The even erased Rushcreek Gander Landers from my sig. Now that's lame.
Kelly Rees
07-14-2007, 05:22 PM
Post a link, I wanna play.
rushcreekganderlander
07-14-2007, 05:56 PM
Kelly Pm sent at ya.
kingkilla
07-14-2007, 06:01 PM
i wanna have it tooooo.
rushcreekganderlander
07-14-2007, 07:00 PM
Website is ohiowaterfowler.com.
H-Unit
07-15-2007, 05:49 PM
Post a link, I wanna play.
Dicating one forum not enough?
Kelly Rees
07-15-2007, 08:04 PM
nope...
H-Unit
07-15-2007, 08:16 PM
dictating
mlgorecki
07-15-2007, 08:20 PM
At least you got the spelling right this time H. Your WIU degree finally paid off.
You kids start playing rough again and somebody's gonna start crying.
Killer Miller
07-16-2007, 03:03 AM
Al, I think we need some of those FFD Crows....whata ya think? :lol: They sure look like the ticket. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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