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waterfowladdict
07-09-2007, 09:01 PM
I was wondering why decoys prices are going up and everybody is saying its because of the price of petroleum. I dont use FA's but the brand I do use GHG whent up 20 bucks a box since last year. Does it really cost 20 more do make 6 goose decoys.

iawaterfowler88
07-09-2007, 10:00 PM
It may not be that the prices of making the decoys went up, but the prices that we see as customers also include the price for transportation and with gas prices going up so will the price of products. Like milk here in Iowa for example, it went from .99 last year for a quart to a 1.19 and now its 1.29. Gas prices affect us more than one way...it sucks.

kingkilla
07-09-2007, 10:07 PM
i dont know where your getting your decoys but the place i go to is still the same price as last year

The Duck Squad
07-09-2007, 10:18 PM
cabelas, gander, and macks all raised their prices.

Killer Miller
07-10-2007, 01:26 AM
Come on over to Frontier Outfitters in Urbandale, Iowa boys! They've got GHG hunter series, progrades, ffd's and fb mallards for the same prices and last year.

waterfowladdict
07-10-2007, 10:10 AM
I did some research last night and found some for cheaper but with shipping its going to be the same.

HATCHETMAN
07-10-2007, 11:06 AM
Makes you wonder who's gettin' rich, and who's gettin' screwed.....kinda funny that bigfoot decoys are the same price as they have been for years! :roll:

SGTSLTR
07-10-2007, 11:45 AM
Makes you wonder who's gettin' rich, and who's gettin' screwed.....kinda funny that bigfoot decoys are the same price as they have been for years! :roll:

We all know who's gettin screwed. The consumer. But, that's par for the course for everything out there.

HATCHETMAN
07-10-2007, 12:48 PM
Jeff....you're right. But I'd rather opt to take it in the shorts from an american comany anyday!!

waterfowladdict
07-10-2007, 01:21 PM
Jeff....you're right. But I'd rather opt to take it in the shorts from an american comany anyday!!

Damn good point.

kingkilla
07-10-2007, 03:48 PM
Come on over to Frontier Outfitters in Urbandale, Iowa boys! They've got GHG hunter series, progrades, ffd's and fb mallards for the same prices and last year. And we may get them discounted because Derek is going to offer to put Frontier Outfitters decals on his trailer. :D
thats where i was talking about to.

and your def. counting your chickens way to fast. he doesnt even have a trailer.

h20fowler
07-10-2007, 04:08 PM
Makes you wonder who's gettin' rich, and who's gettin' screwed.....kinda funny that bigfoot decoys are the same price as they have been for years! :roll:

So does that mean that they are reasonable now, and have been overpriced for the last 6 years.... or have they always been reasonable? Materials have gotten more expensive as time as progressed. That means they could have charged less based on the "I'm going to sell these at XX% over cost" business model.

h20fowler
07-10-2007, 04:09 PM
Come on over to Frontier Outfitters in Urbandale, Iowa boys! They've got GHG hunter series, progrades, ffd's and fb mallards for the same prices and last year. And we may get them discounted because Derek is going to offer to put Frontier Outfitters decals on his trailer. :D

:lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D

So what you are saying is that the IKC can be bought... and all you are doing is negotiating the price now? :lol: :oops:

:lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: :D

kingkilla
07-10-2007, 04:19 PM
we will trade you miller for 2 dozen honker decoys. lol

Brian Rennecker
07-10-2007, 04:55 PM
we will trade you miller for 2 dozen honker decoys. lol

:lol:


Now thats funny

h20fowler
07-10-2007, 05:00 PM
That's not a bad trade.... I got some old G&H Henryetta's from the late 80's. I'd bump it up to 2 and half.... But I get his calls as well!

Greg Ruark Jr.
07-10-2007, 05:05 PM
we will trade you miller for 2 dozen honker decoys. lol

I've got some homemade sillouettes I MAY be willing to part with.......does he do windows?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

HRK
07-10-2007, 05:07 PM
we will trade you miller for 2 dozen honker decoys. lol

and throw in his Benelli so i can trade it for an X3 and its a deal :D

kingkilla
07-10-2007, 06:07 PM
we will trade you miller for 2 dozen honker decoys. lol

I've got some homemade sillouettes I MAY be willing to part with.......does he do windows?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
windows no. laundry? maybe. that me be another half dozen full bodies. but you may want to be careful when you take him hunting. he likes to kills your your birds to. especially banded ones. :D :D

Greg Ruark Jr.
07-10-2007, 06:14 PM
A Band Hog.......... No Deal, sorry Al. :cry:

Justin Mcdonald
07-10-2007, 06:24 PM
You have china to thank for that one they have been jackin pricesupon all the man made products including tungsten and outher dificult to mine for metles. just watch the stock exchange reports on the news for varius man made products and you can get a good fell for how it will affect the waterfowl market.

CJSDuck
07-10-2007, 10:02 PM
We as consumers pay what the companies ask for their decoys and thats that. It may have a little to do with petroleum prices, China or whatever else but fact of the matter is with new and improved this and new and improved that, companies will continue to ask more for their products. Milk prices are apples and decoys are oranges. Last year I was buying flowers for my wife at Flowerama and there was a guy in there buying 4 GHG decoys individualy for $30.00 a piece and they were hunter grades! I laughed at him as I walked out and told him good luck.

Killer Miller
07-10-2007, 11:52 PM
but you may want to be careful when you take him hunting. he likes to kill your birds to. especially banded ones. :D :D

Somebody's gotta fill the limits. :wink: So I don't know why any of you guys would trade decoys for me? :? :lol: :lol: :lol:

HATCHETMAN
07-12-2007, 08:36 AM
Fowler....just depends on your way of thinking, whether your glass is half-full or empty. Yeah, it could be that they were screwing us for the last 6 years, or it could be that they absorbed enough of the equipment costs to finally keep the prices the same or it could be that they kept the prices the same to give us a break and be more competetive. They've come to realize that it's hard to improve upon a proven product. To me it's all about value, and it will be a cold day in hell when I pull a GHG out of the trailer and it looks as good as a bigfoot after 6 years of actual USE. :roll:
Other USA producers also realize if they get their sub-par raw goods from china that they are at the mercy of the chinese for commodity increases....when someone else is holding your decoys overseas possession is 9/10ths of the law. Sorry, you'll never get me on the GHG bandwagon buddy.....they've probably decreased cost by being so diversified, lowered their cost by outsourcing in quantity, and still haven't been able to produce a product that is as trouble free and high quality out of the box as the USA goods. I'm not saying imported goods are bad because of the fact that they are imported, but because these products generally lack the quality control of USA goods because they are outsourced and without direct company supervision, that is to say that an actual waterfowler can inspect them, instead of someone who doesn't have any idea what hunting is. The great thing about USA made products is that you can hold someone accountable for a flaw, and get some resolution instead of the same old lip service "oh yeah, we had a bad batch of paint or plastic from our chinese assembly lines, but we'll rectify it in 6 months after the season is over, but in the meantime we'll be happy to take your decoys back, and send you another sub-par batch to eek you through the season hoping that you will say we are #1 when it comes to customer service". My only point here is that you have the right to ask for something better when it comes to your equipment. Most of the time it's more expensive because you get the piece of mind that your products are constructed and backed up with pride by American sportsmen and women who know if you aren't happy, they aren't making any money, which IMO is how it should be.

Now that I'm done preaching, can I get a Hallelujah???? :D

h20fowler
07-12-2007, 08:53 AM
I wasn't trying to get you on any band wagon. I was just stating that cost of goods have gone up and they have maintained the same price. Rather they absorbed that into equipment or whatever is unknown to me. It's very possible that the equipment is now paid off, and that money has been transformed into the cost of goods to make them. So the retail price was never effected because they are still making whatever % profit on every box sold.

No way am I going to try to debate the durability of bigfoot's. I'd never get a chance to say anything because I completely agree with you.

One thing that I wish Bigfoot had was another couple body positions. I have some, and I like them. But I like a diverse spread that gets away from the "toy soldier" look. Not that they won't kill birds like that. Not what I was saying at all. I'm a decoy *****. I like to look at them in the field. My preference is to not have them all looking the same for my own sakes. Not the birds. Another part of the reason why you will see 5 decoy companies in my full body spread,

rushcreekganderlander
07-12-2007, 12:58 PM
"toy soldier" look

Yeah that's my biggest complaint about BFs. When I've hunted over them I look out and see...decoys. Other brands have brought a lot more realism to the table in my opinion. Yes it sucks they make them overseas, but take a look around your house...3/4 of your stuff was made overseas I'd bet...especially if you ever go to Wal Mart. It's ****ty. I'm a blue collar worker in the steel industry and it really sucks. I'm sure my job will dissolve someday too. On the other han I do think BFs have gotten better looking color wise in the last couple years...I just wish they would change their body styles. If they would do that I think they would get my business because the durabilty is untouchable. I just don't like the "toy soldier" look either.

HATCHETMAN
07-12-2007, 01:49 PM
Fair enough fellas.... just wanted to make it clear that I'll buy home-made any day I can. I realize it's difficult if not impossible to follow that philosophy in every day living, and I realize that there are hangups with variety in the American offerings. My biggest gripe is the seeming lack of craftsmanship in some, but not all of those foreign made products. It's aggravating to see some products pushed on the basis of a name or brand when I know that they have a long way to go to live up to the field standard that they are mass marketed for. I just wish for once the companies would be real about their products and say "hey, we have the best looking decoy out there, but it comes with a price...these have a 1 year life expectancy in an outfitter application" Hopefully some of you will understand my frustration! HM

h20fowler
07-12-2007, 02:10 PM
I just wish for once the companies would be real about their products and say "hey, we have the best looking decoy out there, but it comes with a price...these have a 1 year life expectancy in an outfitter application" Hopefully some of you will understand my frustration! HM

I completely understand, and I don't run my spread as an outfitter. I run it as a dedicated hunter who sits his goose spread about 40 times a season. Ducks get sit about 30.

This is why I have a 2 dozen Bigfoot's, 2 dozen higdon's, and 20 flambeau Judge's at the bottom of my full body trailer. They cushion my 80+ decoys that can't take that abuse... :wink: :lol: Or I guess I should say "that use..."