A little problem with my pup!!!!

[wingslocked]

Ok guys heres my problem! I have a 4 month old yellow lab male and we have been doin the simple training sit, down, u no the basics and i have him retrieving a little bit but. When I brought him home at 6 weeks old I introduced him to the neighbors 2 1/2 year old golden retriever and they play and have fun but everytime the neighbors dogs sees him he starts barking and my pup leaves me and goes see him what can i do to have him concentrate on me and no the other dog? I no hes still a pup and he needs to play and have fun but he also needs no learn any tips?

Thanks

[Coot]

You have permitted him to do this so he thinks it is OK. Now you have to teach it is not OK. Be patient but be firm. Keep him on a lead. Do not give a command that you are not in position to enforce. OB is difficult to enforce until about 6 months old.

Keep him on a lead for ALL OB until he is solid.

[Duck envy]

I would invest in a good shockcollar .with the warning mode and shock.will work wonders.He will learn alot faster if you use it right.You have to correct the dog right when it happen's or They dont now what they did wrong .Goodluck

[ted b]

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[ted b]

simple the pup bond with the older dog so know here is the easest thing to do is put him on a check cord when he starts to go give him the command here then give the check cord a haul and flip him over. He will stand there for a second after he dust himself give command again and slight tug do it a couple of time he will understand your the boss.Please dont use e-coller to try to fix a problem!!!!! use a e-collar only to reinforce comands that he already knows!!!!!!!! Also stop let him play with the other dog until he comes on command

[MinnesotaMike]

the check cord is a good idea, if you have a choke collar that would also be a good idea, i have a 14 month old femals yellow and she is stubborn as hell, what i do in that situation (we have dogs all over the place around my place) is wearing the new pronged choke collar just let him run to the end of the check cord and right before he gets there yell "come" or whatever you use as that command and he will choke himself, he'll get it

[GooseRefuge.com]

I agree. I think the check cord is a better option.

[wooziegoose]

i agree with ted b. put him on a leash, and when he breaks, pull that thing hard enought to flip the dog on its butt. it may sound cruel but it only takes a couple of times and the dog will realize who the boss is . it worked for me.

[njhonker]

wingslocked...

take a step back...."figuretively".....take the pup somewhere it can just be the two of you...do some of the drills you've been working on...make sure the dog is keying in you...

don't over due it...a 4 month or so pup is going to loose interest in "work" very quickly...make it fun...end on a positive note each time...do this for 3 or 4 days in different locations...they don't have to be anywhere fancy...can just be down the street...Just make sure there's no distractions..."yet"

start out at these places with the checkcord...and continue with the pup on the checkcord even after him/her is doing things right....

after pup is doing well at the new places with no distractions...take the pup back to the house with the checkcord on....correct the pup when it tries to run away to next door...have the checkcord on.....

don't get too stern with the pup just a firm "no" and a shake should get your point accross...

I like to take a simple training approach with dogs....good dog- bad dog goes a long way.....

people never forget to come down on a dog when it does wrong but they tend to not enforce good behavior or praise when the dog does something right....use a soothing "good girl/boy" when things are right and stern "NO" when things are not....you don't have to shout either...
When you use a loud voice with a dog..they start to tune you out very quickly...if you always use a lower tone voice when handling a dog...when you have to make a correction...and you raise your voice just slightly....it carries alot more weight with the dog....they will understand very quickly that you mean business...e-collors are a great training aid...however...don't think an e-collar is a shortcut to no training...it will only make more work for you or ruin the dog if not used and introduced correctly...if your going to use an e-collar put it on the dog each and everytime you take the dog out...for play or training...DO NOT SHOCK THE DOG HOWEVER...only after fully learning all of its commands in all situations do you start using stimulation....
ok..thats the end of my lecture....

have fun with your pup and good luck...

[MinnesotaMike]

This is cool, i get more and more educated every time i look at new posts, you guys know your stuff... im glad we got a place like this

[migrator00]

My 13 month old black female lab is at the trainer as we speak..and the lead w/ the check cord has done wonders. He has trained labs and pointers for field trials for 21 years and he only uses the e collar for reinforcement. That's all. Be patient and repetitious. good luck

[IowaMigr8tor]

I would take him out on a long lead rope near the neighbors dog. If the dog distracts the pup and barks causing the pup to move away from you and towards the otther dog. Give the "Here" command, if the dog refuses pop him over backwards and give the command again.
I would restrain from using a Pinch collar(one with prongs), pinch collars are for use on stubborn dogs, i.e. dogs that a choke chain doesnt work on.

[migrator00]

I will have to disagree w/ iowa...the pinch collar is a well known tool for many trainers..and used on dogs of all skill levels. This is a very effective tool for all dogs. I would suggest it highly and know several others who will agree. Just tryin' to give you the best advice that I know...use whatever works and good luck!

[MinnesotaMike]

Migrator is right, they are probably better then the old choker. But the important thing with the new pinch collar is that you just give one jolt and and dont pull them by it. It is supposed to immitate the mothers bite. so dont ever drag your dog by a pinch

[mlgorecki]

A lot of great advice out there. I have a 2 1/2 yr old Lab; trained/still training him myself and he too had the problem of running off to greet other dogs while I was trying to work with him. At 6 months I used the e-collar as a back-up. He would be great until another dog came along. When he was about a year old he finally grew out of the "other-dog-distraction" thing as a few pro trainers told me. Keep doing what the other guys are saying and it will all suddenly come together; however, Richard Wolters says in his books, "Water Dog", "Gun Dog" and "Game Dog", always go back to the basics of reinforcing "Sit-Stay-Come". I am with him on that one. If you have a dog, with desire to hunt, that obeys those three commands and you can teach him the rest easily.